How many man hours and $ in rebuild?
 

I'm thinking about eventually getting a 20' seacraft. I'm leaning toward a CC. How many hours and how much money do you guys have in your rebuilds? I'm new to fiberglass repair so not shure I want to take the plunge. I'd just replace the transom, floor etc. not change the layout.
I'm coming from v bottom aluminums where you can redo the floor and transom in very little time and money if motivated. The ride is a bit rough in the bay chop though.

hrs depends on you! $ depends on what materials you use and how much you rebuild. their is no solid answer to your question. just to many variables involved.

I realize it would be impossible to say how may hrs/$ it would take me to rebuild one. I just want to know how many hrs and $ the people who have completed or near completed projects have in theirs. I also realize some will have countless hrs and may not want to reveal in public how much time and money they have in their boats if for no other reason than their wives possibly seeing the total $. If thats the case just PM me the #s.

Depends on your choices and your motivation. Probably less than half the guys that start a full restoration like you're talking about ever finish it. If you are thinking you can have a nicer boat, for less money, by restoring one than what you could buy used, forget it.

On the other hand, if you are good with your hands, are good at problem solving, like learning new skills, and take a lot of satisfaction from creating something attractive and useful from raw materials, sweat, itch, and brain power, sign up, man.

Dave

amen to that, buying one finished is much cheaper on a whole

If you want one done a certain way and dont have th 10k-25k to lay out on a fully restored one you can spread the money out over 2 years during the restoration.

retail places are not your friend during restoration, I spent 20k on my last one and sold it for 5k less not including my time.

I did mine from dec 1st to may working most weekends, nights and some days off during the winter. I will do the next more efficent now that I know how and what I want to do.

just as an example. i have been doing my transom that was needed, and decided to go ahead and close it in and add a bracket. im using the least expesive materials against alot of advise and bought a used bracket. im about 3 monthes into it and maybe need a few more weeks if all goes well, and have spent easily around 1500.00 as far as i can remember. the quick trips for misc... not counted! lots of after work days and weekends. lots of itching and running back to the PC for looking at how others have done things. honestly i wish i had taken it to Hermco as i had originaly planned and even then i could only afford to have some of the work done and would have had to finish it myself. and he was giving me a kickass deal on top of it all. so realy look twice and decide carfuly. its alot of work.

good luck on your project!

Consider what your time is worth - nothing in the end. Add to it what you think you will need to do the project and then triple it. If the numbers don't work - forget it. You will NEVER have what you really want!

If you think you know exactly what you want and how you want it and won't settle for anything else - go for it. It gets easier as your go - OJT- and you will further refine your dream and end up with something others will admire and can't ever have----unless they do the same. Seacraft are special. Nothing else like them and when they are right for you, you own a nice little plot in heaven on earth. Your choice!

You can spend $1000 alone in sand paper, plastic measuring cups, mixing sticks, roller sleeves, roller handles, paper towels, rubber gloves, acetone, ...etc...

strick

Beer budget too

I have been keeping track of most of the expense on my re-build on a spread sheet.(check out the link to see what I have done so far)

I have been getting all supplies at a builders discount!

Just materials alone...etc. glass,epoxy, fairing compound, sand paper wood, coosa.

$8307
This does not include any hardware or running gear.

I took my sweet a$$ time and 2 1/2 years later I'm almost finished
I did not have to do as a extensive rebuid as some here also
No transom and my floor was ok for the most part
I started a file to throw all the receipts of all I bought but after awhile I said forget it.

You can go full bore and get it over with quickly or a little at a time if the budget dictates, but it but if I were to do it over again I would go full bore and get it over with and use the boat
But at the end of the day you have a product that you know is done right not some boat that could have something wrong with it

Well I bought my 74 23' Tsunami for $1000.00.It needed a total restoration.I spent a little less than three years working just about every single weekend on it.
Had to replace the transom,recore all the hatches and every other single thing on it.I was lucky that only the deck floor under the seats was rotted,so at least I didn't have to recore the entire deck.
It took almost three years only because I paid for everything as I got the money.Most of the bullwork like grinding,recoring, glass layup etc, was done in a short time.It was everything else that cost a lot that slowed me down.I'm lucky to have a good friend in the fiberglass business,so was able to get all the resin,glass,paint,etc at a very good savings.

I did a lot of horse trading to save money,like buying an old Chris Craft with a newer engine with only 200 hours and outdrive for 1500.00.I took the motor and drive and gave the boat away.Everything else was new stuff for the most part.I bought all new electronics,and a new 8hp Yamaha kicker motor.I picked up a used Raymarine pathfinder radar at a good price.I bought a new radar tower from Atlantic Towers.

Anyway,I figure that even with the savings on the glass,resin,and other stuff,I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to 17 thousand into it.
I guess I could have bought one already done over for that price,and as much as I don't want to wear another Tyvek suit again,it was a very satisfying project.

The way I look at it,is that I now own a basically new boat with an incredible hull for less than a fourth of what a comprable new boat would cost.
Three years of itchy,dirty,sweaty,back breaking work, $15,000 BUCKS! No loans,no monthly payments,"PRICELESS"

My advice,(for what little it's worth) is to just do it.Try not to fixate on cost. In the end it's the satisfaction you have from doing it,the cost becomes a non issue,besides we all like looking at boat porn and restoration projects.

Amen! These incidental things add up quick too and no one ever budgets for this either. You need to plan on spending $1000 for these things for a floor and transom project ($500 each).

acetone, paint thinner and denatured alcohol. could rack the bill up alone. I think I might get 5 gallon buckets for the next build.

1708 biaxel fiberglass is around $9 a yard retail right now,
polyester resin is around $ 19 a gallon.


I am almost talking myself out of a build, thank god i can buy almost everything at whole sale.

Thanks for the heads up. It's a real eye opener. Sounds like too much of a commitment of time and money for me right now. Sounds like a good project for retirement. I like working with my hands and rebuild/work on outboards and I'm in the process of rebuilding a 16' dual console tinny but 2-3yrs of my free time to rebuild just a hull is too much for me. I must commend you guys for completing such a task.

My wisest purchase so far has been a $60 bag of Cabosil from Revchem. I've used over a 5 gallon bucket so far and will probably have quite a bit left over but it has saved me some coin!:D

You will be into the boat for 3X whats its worth on the open market. Also it will take the 'average' guy quite a while to get it done, took me almost 2 years. Here is a thread on CM that other guys have posted up about their rebuilds.

http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=42922

I can promise you one thing...............you cannot restore one for what Billy The Kid sold his for, not if you plan on doing that extensive work.

I've done 2 now and both times it cost more than what you thought it would.

In my case it's a hobby. I actually have fun doing it. It's something I can do at home and if I get an emergency call (which happens every day) I just jump in my truck and head out. If I'm out fishing the client is SOL. So it is a way to have fun at home and not interfere too much with my work. Most importantly when I am finished with a boat it is EXACTLY the way I want it. Also by the time I am finished I have went through the boat with a fine tuned comb and know it inside and out. There are no worries when out on the water that this is weak or that is bad. The boat is Brand NEW :)

strick

Amen to that, Strick!

Exactly what you want, the way you want it and done right! If something does go, you know exactly what needs to be done and how to do it.

...and if all of that is not enough, you've got the best damn bunch of cheering knowledgable coaches here to help!!!

Yes sir to that. The internet is a great thing....thank you Al Gore for inventing it! :)

strick

:D

I spent seven summers doing both the boat and trailer working a few hours every day. I saved every one of my receipts but have yet gotten up the nerve to total them up. You need to look it as enjoyment and an education. Would I do it again? Sure

HE didn't BUILD that! Someone else did! They built networks, the routers, the servers,etc, etc. They were all marked made and provided by the US Government. Bill Gates, Larry Elliasson, Steve Jobs, etc. had nothing to do with it. It was all government!

I may have posted this here before, but it is one of the best damn 10 minutes you will spend this year if you take a few minutes and watch it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ERbC7JyCfU

AlGore isn't a builder, he's an inventor! He didn't just invent the internet, he invented global warming, too.

And he was/is trying to establish an exchange, similar to the NYSE, to broker ($$$$) the sale and purchase of carbon credits to corporations and high net worth investors.

"Now aint that nice!"

I just love the hope and change....:o:rolleyes::mad:

We got his idea of change, now we're hoping for some more "big time" change!

ive had my project for 2 .5 years now. Im in it for about $10,000 at the moment.