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Seacraft84 09-11-2013 10:40 PM

67 19' Bowrider conversion to bay style center console
 
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Let me get this out of the way first. I know it's a shame to cut up such a classic Seacraft but a bowrider just doesn't cut it with us.
Going to put in a little broken shear and finish similar to a bay style boat.
Helped(mostly watched) my son cut out the floor and topsides out this evening.
I was amazed at the wood in this boat was in perfect condition. Zero rot anywhere.
Stringers are perfect.
Plan to raise the floor about 4" using laminated plywood on top of the existing stringers.
Going to go ahead and laminate the transom and then flip the boat over to get the hull in shape for paint. Much easier to let gravity help with the prep.
My son Brett is actually seacraft84.Will post pics as he gets along.
Lots of glass in this boat, very solid.
Had a Bohemi??? label on one piece of plywood.

Islandtrader 09-12-2013 05:32 PM

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I have always thought it would be a neat C/C...


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RUSTYNTABATHA 09-12-2013 08:27 PM

we do what we must with what we have availible... Good luck and may the Seaforce be with you .. LOL

Seacraft84 09-12-2013 08:50 PM

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Here is what we are looking at without all the dang rod holders in the gunnels.
Will be using a Bob's 14" hydraulic Jackplate instead of the full bracket.
With a smaller console

fdheld34 09-12-2013 09:15 PM

gotta love the conchs and R&R Boatworks

McGillicuddy 09-12-2013 09:37 PM

Your boat, do what you want.
Look again, the stamp says BOHEMIA. Situated in what is now the Czech Republic, it was the former home of the Hapsburgs, now porn capital of Europe and home to some really beautiful women.

At any rate, get a real good look at the grid Mr. Moesly designed and built. Freakin' stout! Get more pics. That was "how to build a boat better than anyone else."

And get a good look at his perfect shear-line. Freakin' beautiful IMHO!:cool:

Nobody asked but, IMO, the shear-line on the bottom picture doesn't work for a SeaCraft 20. In fact, I find it's F-ugly. :eek: I hope you'll re-think that.
If not -- I hope you get really wet!:D:D

O.K. - I'm done... Good luck with your project.

Seacraft84 09-12-2013 09:45 PM

I gotcha.
That pic of the boat started as a 20' Seacraft.
The boat we have as it sits does have a good looking profile. We will be looking at it real close.

Capt Chuck 09-12-2013 10:57 PM

20 rod holders. Looks like a rapper's grill:(

hermco 09-13-2013 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Chuck (Post 219894)
20 rod holders. Looks like a rapper's grill:(

:D

flyingfrizzle 09-13-2013 06:51 AM

Never understood why r&r dose all those darn rod holders. It seems like a gaulty wast of money. Love the look of a broken sheer line, not sure on the 20 due to the sides are so low to begin with but as a bay boat it would work well im guessing. I really love the way the sheer line looks on those beauties your dad has built. He is quite a craftsman, and looking threw his post on marcus's site he is very fast and productive as well. One day I am going to try my luck at a cold mold boat. If this boat turns out like any of you and your dads other projects im sure it will be very nice.

Here is a picture of one cut like your talking about, a member posted this pic a while back. I kinda like to look of it. With a floor raised 4" and sides this low the will not be much free-board but it will look cool!

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...ps07ca9afc.jpg

parrott 09-13-2013 07:16 AM

Thxs frizzle. This is gonna have front and back casting decks w the back deck having two storage compartments and livewell. Prolly incorporate a bench seat on the back casting deck the width of boat.

"If not -- I hope you get really wet!"
Only thing getting really wet in this sexy ride will be the chics..lol..sorry couldnt help it.

parrott 09-13-2013 07:21 AM

Look at most bay and flats boats today, hardly any freeboard. Im guessing this will have around 11-13" of freeboard from the break in the shear to stern.

And yes this thing was built like boats should be. Plenty of glass everywhere. Gunnels dont even have wood in them. Just solid thick glass.

RUSTYNTABATHA 09-13-2013 08:05 AM

R and R build the boats to spec!! the rod holders are there for the wat they fish on the south east coast of florida... alot of drift and kite fishing.. as for the broken shear i love both the original and the swept shear and will be watching close because this is what i want to build for my next boat to replace my bassboat !!!!!! there is one on here osmehwere built very similar to what you are wanting to build but i can't remember who.. IT WAS AWSOME !!! low slung console ... bench seat pad with backrest on top of a back casting deck... looked like it was going 60 mph at idle !!!!!!

DonV 09-13-2013 08:32 AM

Hey Chuck, that's a good one!!! Could you imagine if those rod holders and other hardware came in gold color?? You could pull that thing through "da hood" and be a hero!!! The whores would line up just to get a ride. :)

NoBones 09-13-2013 09:08 AM

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Silly boys, all those rod holders are for Crappie fishin'

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DonV 09-13-2013 05:08 PM

This Cracker thought they were called specks, as in speckled perch. :)

parrott 09-18-2013 09:28 AM

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All I know is the putty they used back then was tough as nails. Used the grinder to sand down the sides where the liner was attached and the top of the stringers. Got the transom all sanded down and is ready for the wood to be glassed in hopefully sometime this week.
After glassing transom gonna take boat and blast the whole inside of it to save me a bunch of sanding. Then bring it home flip it over and start working on the bottom.

parrott 09-26-2013 07:27 AM

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Transom glassed in

Islandtrader 09-26-2013 08:17 AM

OMG!

No Bones was out with his AR-15...

philfish 09-26-2013 09:58 AM

Hey, someone did a heck of a job getting that old transom out!

parrott 09-26-2013 12:45 PM

lol. Yeah man she was cleaned up nicely. Just had to do alittle more grinding and we were good.

parrott 10-02-2013 10:51 AM

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Got the stringers laminated together and some knees cut. Sanded the gelcoat off transom and filled in all the screw holes.

parrott 10-02-2013 11:01 AM

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parrott 10-02-2013 11:16 AM

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parrott 10-02-2013 10:36 PM

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Stringers in place. Back deck is gonna end up being about 3" lower from where we are gonna cut the sides down. Front deck is gonna be 68" from bow to bulkhead(center). Back deck is gonna b 48" from stern to bulkhead. Old coffin box is gonna work good underneath the console for batteries and such. Last pis shows just how thick the stringers are.

parrott 10-03-2013 07:14 AM

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parrott 10-04-2013 06:58 AM

Does anyone know why there is a 1"x4" running the inside of the two inside stringers. You can see it in the pic of the stringer above. It has mat on the back to help glue to stringer. Not sure what the real purpose here is????????

flyingfrizzle 10-04-2013 08:00 AM

They might of been placed there to give some wood to screw the gas tank brackets into.
With the stringers being hollow they may of need this so that the screws would have something to hold to. If the tank had brackets it would possibly been to hold the gas tank that is if it was not foamed in. That is if the wood is on the inside of the center two stringers facing towards the tank. That would be my guess.

parrott 10-04-2013 08:57 AM

good thought. but there seems to be no holes in the coffin box where brackets may have been. It really has me stumped.

Another question??? Why do boat manufactures today put wood or composite inside the stringers. I mean these are thick ass stringers and all and have held up this long. Makes more sense to me to have extra thick glass stringers that are hollow.

strick 10-04-2013 10:06 AM

Interesting stringers. I was comparing it to the pictures in the literature section. That was Moesly's grid system. The idea that he came up with that is still used in boat building. My guess is the wood is in there to act as a stiffener or what frizz said....

strick

parrott 10-04-2013 10:26 AM

I guess so. the wood only has mat where it is glued to stringer. the other side of it is bare...but still not rotten. Amazing

flyingfrizzle 10-04-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by strick (Post 220712)
Interesting stringers. I was comparing it to the pictures in the literature section. That was Moesly's grid system. The idea that he came up with that is still used in boat building. My guess is the wood is in there to act as a stiffener or what frizz said....

strick

If I remember correctly the grid system you talk about was made in a mold then tabbed to the boats hull. That explains why it has gel coat covering it. That was the first coat in the mold before the lay up. I remember reading about the grid system and how Carl was the first to use this in a boat and think today there is still a ton of grids use in boats manufactured today! What an inventor. He was a smart smart man...

philfish 10-04-2013 02:57 PM

I always assumed the wood was put there to mock up the location for the glass. If I'm correct, there would be no feasbale way to remove them once the glass was in. I staired at that for while asking myself the same questions.

parrott 10-04-2013 02:59 PM

yeah the stringers were made in a mold too. still dont explain the wood????

flyingfrizzle 10-08-2013 08:50 AM

Thought this might interest you:

http://allcoastmarine.com/2013/04/17/1968-seafarer/

http://allcoastmarine.com/portfolio/1968-seacraft/

Looks like the same style stringer grid in this old 19'

parrott 10-08-2013 01:41 PM

Thxs man. That boat looks great. I think we are gonna put some small mahogany spray rails on this one front front all the way to the stern.

parrott 10-09-2013 01:02 AM

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Knees glassed

ian_upton 10-09-2013 07:50 AM

My 1962 Bertram 25 had a gelcoated fiberglass stringer grid.

Not sure if Seacraft was earlier or not.

Ian.

parrott 10-09-2013 01:44 PM

Right on. I like them Bertrams too.
Yeah not sue when Mosely started this grid system.

parrott 10-15-2013 12:36 AM

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More progress. Tank also came in. 40gal aluminum. Start blasting this boat and the 23' tomorrow


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