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Cost of restoration 23' cc
Can anyone chime in to a ball park cost of a full restoration by a reputable boat shop on a 23' CC. That's floor, fuel tank, enclose transom and bracket. I'm looking at a 23' and was wondering if I should buy a hull and have it refurbed or find one done already....is it 15K-20K?
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Ah... well.... a bit more than that. If you did it yourself and could use the same engine, you might get close.
Pretty hard to give an exact number, but having a good shop do a full rebuild would be astronomical. |
I think for a full resto by a reputable shop will be running closer to 70-85k
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There are some people out there that do commercial boat quality restorations that are perfectly functional but lack full restore finish surfaces. If you where in central Florida I could set you up with a guy that could do all the structure and gelcoat work within your price range .
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Save a ton of money and get one that's already done. Whatever you thought your costs would be to redo one, triple it.
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A lot depends on lacation, what materials you use and how far you want to take it. If you do it than you end up with exactly what you wanted,buying something else than probably not..
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Being in the midst of a full "I'm my own worst enemy" custom retro classic 23 restoration project- (my fiberglass shop buddy calls it the 50 year boat, i.e., I have/ am specifying the scantlings (coosa, double fuel tanks, water, custom chopped toe kick console, etc) so that I can hand a good solid boat down to my kids in 25-30 years); the numbers add up quickly. The line between what you can do to put her back together efficiently (less expensively) and the things (structures/ features) you want to do in your custom project, can quickly become a slippery slope (more expensive). I caved long ago, and went the inefficient route (it's a sickness). As has been said before, any repair/ upgrade/ custom feature, i.e. jewelry (cleats, rod holders), electronics, engine(s) also help to push the price up quickly.
I know of a very nice 23 CC bracket completed project that I have inspected- total refit; bracket, transom door, transom live well, new console, new T top, bow rail, floor, paint, rigging, electronics, new F300 Yamaha- I was told the total net cost was $60k for a very nice complete boat all orchestrated by an insider in the marine business. A carefully planned, properly executed custom project can be very rewarding, but a challenge all the same: Don't say I didn't warn you. If you are looking for an "old school" fiberglass shop; local boat owners from gold plater intrepid owners to working class folks use A1 Fiberglass Repairs in Miami. I have known and worked them for over two decades: I have seen them handle everything from gelcoat repairs and minor paint work , and minor fiberglass repairs to full custom structural construction and cosmetic restoration, including custom mold/ part fabrication, collision restoration, etc. They use materials that are appropriate for the job/ project from polyester to vinyl-ester and epoxy, and plywood to airex, pvc, coosa, and Kevlar and Kevlar/ Carbon fiber. They're specialty is efficiency- keeping costs down, while maximizing results. I have known the owner/ operator for 26 years- After serving in the army, he started out at one of the first pioneer fiberglass boat builders in the early 1980's, and built his body of experience from there; he knows boat structures and appropriate repairs, and has been in business for almost three decades: Good guy, and very easy to work with. If he's convenient enough, or you're willing to travel; he's probably worth talking to. |
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Materials and Paint at a shop would be in the 15-20k range, and then you have to start adding in labor...:eek: You would be hard pressed to DYI for that amount. |
The absolute truth!! I have seen guys drop 80-100k on complete rebuilds. Paint, full transom, floor and hermco bracket could cost +$20k! Forgetting about the rest of the boat/motors.
My suggestion would be to find one already done or buy a solid boat with a good motor and fix it up over time. I went with a solid boat with new power that runs great. With that said, on my way to meet Bob at Birdsall Marine for my new rocket launcher. |
Those numbers may sound crazy, but you have to consider what a new, beautifully done, custom boat of similar quality would cost, cause that is what you would have. 100k would probably be on the low end.
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If you've been on the The Hull Truth and seen some of the professional "Seacraft to Conch" restores - i can tell you about what those cost. No offense but if you think those kinds of restores cost 15-20k then your jaw will drop when you find out what it really costs.
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The cost to pay a professional shop to build one is what drives traffic on this site. Everyone is up here trying to figure out how to do it themselves to make it more affordable to own a classic Potter/Moesly boat. All the dyi info up here is what makes it possible for many of us myself included. :D |
I just saw a 23 secraft redone by Conch at Birsall Marine. Over 85k in the boat with a single motor!! I'm sure the boat had 2k worth of rod holders ever 2 inches....
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Is that the one they cut 2 feet off the hull? There is a very long thread about it on THT.
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There's been a few documented over there and yes one of them was shortened. The point being that's 100% custom and professional work and it don't come cheap. For something of that caliber you can expect to drop $60,000 before you buy engine and electronics.
Frizzle is correct - it's what drives this site..........me doing the work is certainly the only way I could afford to own/buy one!!! |
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Not many can stroke a check for a resto like Todd`s Lures or many others. I still have primary wiring to do on my 20. I hate wiring. Damn gremlins. I`m getting better...slowly |
I am going through the restoration process right now (See Scamp 15). I can say with absolute certainty that a full restoration on a boat that size would easily exceed 50k.
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Ryan, I think so. I had to do a double take on the front of the hull. Boat was beautiful.
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On another note Trayder has a pretty bad ass Conch thread on THT. |
Yeah the pitchforks are burning as usual. We may disagree on here but we try to be respectful.
Tight work by Trayder and Co. and a really funny thread as well. |
Prepare to empty yo pockets!!!
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I think we scared him off the site...
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Most likely...
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How come we don't have all dem little emocions likes der is over on THT???
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:):D:(:mad::p:o:confused:;):rolleyes::cool::eek: |
OK der Herman, how did you do that????????
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Does your restoration cost include the steering wheel???? LOL!! |
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Some restores are all inclusive, some are not----------. :-) |
Thought I would add some humor. . . . Too many wise a$$es on THT!!
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Ummmmmmm, I use the "Post Reply", not the "Quick Post".
Ok, I found Advanced. My Bad----------------. But still no Imocicons. ??????? |
Dude. Yer killin me. http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...psc58d352c.gif
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The King is in our midst. Bow your heads in a moment of servitude. Emoticons lessen the tension. Hitchcock was the master of tension. |
I'm scared! This could get out of hand! :eek:
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I`ve seen his work. Cheers, GFS |
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We have some folks who color their canvas outside the lines and sometimes off the frame. The joy is in the knowledge. And sharing. More snow up north this weekend??? Brrr, GFS |
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On that "other site" you can just click on the little thingys right there and NOT have to ATTACH them------------. :-) But I should be more understanding. The webmaster is up to his a-- in roaches and fiberglass dust and when he vacations it's flippin -32 dgrs out. Whats up with that??? |
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