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Jeff79Sceptre 08-14-2014 02:26 PM

G2 Evinrude
 
I don't know about y'all but that thing is hideous. It looks like it belongs on some experimental boat. I hope at least it's fast! I say they bring back the V8....

YeA 20sF 08-14-2014 03:04 PM

I think the look great. They are customizable with different colors for the engine and cowling. smallest HP is 200 though

RidgeRunner 08-14-2014 03:16 PM

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You think the 300 makes 300 this time? Etec 300 was more like 275. Unacceptable when the competition delivers the goods for the same or less money. LOL! I don't want to hear some 10% rule/excuse either. It is or it isn't and everything else is false advertisement.. Actually it doesn't matter to me I would never be able to afford one. Kinda looks like the cowl is a piece of Samsonite luggage. Attachment 7933

kmoose 08-14-2014 03:35 PM

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Don't worry, I was told the packaging on the G3 is going retro for a more classic look. :D

Yepper, the owner before me had her equipped with the V8. Not quite sure which would of got rid of fuel faster, running it at 30 knots or pouring it over the side.

RidgeRunner 08-14-2014 03:49 PM

Amazing how poor a fuel economy they really got back then. Not to give you all more fuel against the Mercury fire you have burning over here but I got a 250 EFI that will do a gallon justice in about a minute. The old 90 crossflow Johnnyrude wasn't much better if any. Both stack up between 1.6 and 2 MPG -- AVERAGE. Yeeeeeouch! :eek:

RidgeRunner 08-14-2014 03:50 PM

Love the Chrysler with the E-rude sticker too there K

Terry England 08-14-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff79Sceptre (Post 230085)
I don't know about y'all but that thing is hideous. It looks like it belongs on some experimental boat. I hope at least it's fast! I say they bring back the V8....

I know how you feel. I felt the same way when Mercury Hurricanes were green and had fins and then they came out with the white ones that leaned forward and they were just too modern looking! But they did have a neutral and reverse.
OMC came out with a V-4 50 Hp that had fake exhaust ports like a Buick Roadmaster, so it was cool look'in but it had a toothed belt driven distributor so if you cavitated them and they over rev'd you would throw the belt off. Not an ideal engineering set-up, but they had those cool exhaust ports to look at while you were git'in towed in. The Homelite Bearcats scared all us old guys away from 4S, because the oil fell out the bottom seal on the Crosleys. (well except GFS who's look'in for a couple of low hour ones for the 21) Jeff, we is always on the cutt'in edge of technology. However, over the decades, Engine Designers and Marketing Gurus when forced to work together have been known to scrape the "guard rail" on the Learning Curve of Style, try'in to get to the summit of "Form Follows Function".

gofastsandman 08-14-2014 07:13 PM

The trick to getting powah outtah 2 smokes is porting and exhaust. Oh and lots of rpm.
In had old rd yammis and you could take them to 10k.

The new 250 HO makes 600 ft lbs of torque. Yes 600.

I would not be surprised if they have seen 350 and 400 hp from these.

These have all intakes starboard and all exhausts port side. You can bet they have pushed these just a tad. The emissions are reduced by 75%. That is impressive.

deepsushi 08-15-2014 08:34 AM

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I just fail to understand what designer thought that the motor looked good? Whoever it is must have played a lot of this when they were a kid...

That thing is FUGLY!!

wattaway2 08-15-2014 10:27 AM

Like eveinrudes but have to agree the g2 is fugly

RidgeRunner 08-15-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gofastsandman (Post 230098)
The trick to getting powah outtah 2 smokes is porting and exhaust. Oh and lots of rpm.
In had old rd yammis and you could take them to 10k.

The new 250 HO makes 600 ft lbs of torque. Yes 600.

I would not be surprised if they have seen 350 and 400 hp from these.

These have all intakes starboard and all exhausts port side. You can bet they have pushed these just a tad. The emissions are reduced by 75%. That is impressive.

Love your post GFS (even the ones I can't understand) BUT I Doubt that (600 lb/ft) with all my heart. Unless it were a diesel. AND The very thing that the e-tec's lacked was operating range on the big end..Noone can get past the limiter.
Go fast guys are complaining that they could reach their terminal velocity if they could get the e-tec to turn some more RPM.. Monty being the main man that has taken the e-tec to the next level. (see 130 MPH STV on the Suwannee)
I like that they are trying to develop something NEW.. Because they keep new products coming to market they will eventually make something I need.. Remember it cost dollars cubed to develop and test new product, I will give them chops for that...

FishStretcher 08-15-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gofastsandman (Post 230098)
The trick to getting powah outtah 2 smokes is porting and exhaust. Oh and lots of rpm.
In had old rd yammis and you could take them to 10k.

The new 250 HO makes 600 ft lbs of torque. Yes 600.

I would not be surprised if they have seen 350 and 400 hp from these.

These have all intakes starboard and all exhausts port side. You can bet they have pushed these just a tad. The emissions are reduced by 75%. That is impressive.

If they do make 600 ft-lb of torque, then they would make 250 hp at 2188 RPM at that torque. Unless that's prop torque. Which would be a bit disingenuous to claim.

Bigshrimpin 08-15-2014 03:05 PM

G2 styling reminds me of the Chrysler outboards. 1970's Retro!

http://www.hurrikain.com/Franzmarine/franz1.jpg

kmoose 08-15-2014 03:32 PM

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I found a store full of the new powerheads!

Bushwacker 08-15-2014 09:38 PM

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While beauty is in the eye of the beerholder, I suspect that a lot of folks will get used to the looks after they experience the mid-range omph of the new motors! (The propshaft HP/torque measurements from a calibrated eddy current dyno below speak volumes!)

Frankly I think the BRP guys deserve a lot of credit for having the balls to challenge and completely rethink the entire outboard design concept AND for the commitment to spend serious $ for a totally new clean sheet design, including ALL NEW production tooling! I'm sure their beancounters would have been much more comfortable sticking with minor refinements to what are already proven and very competitive designs. Those removable panels will also provide much quicker and easier access to key engine components than the conventional bucket-style engine cover with a 2-piece lower shroud, so while I also prefer the looks of the current motors, I can see some advantages to the new design.

gofastsandman 08-15-2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FishStretcher (Post 230122)
If they do make 600 ft-lb of torque, then they would make 250 hp at 2188 RPM at that torque. Unless that's prop torque. Which would be a bit disingenuous to claim.

Prop numbers.

RidgeRunner 08-16-2014 08:13 AM

I stand amazed, GFS your right as they would have us thinking. Interesting prop shaft torque huh? I'll buy that for a dollar. I think Dave Bush has placed the e-tec on the dyno and they are impressive, but not 600 lb/ft of torque impressive.. They are tractors from the looks of those numbers, midrange is what moves a boat from a standstill. I'd have one if the price was right. Beerholder here.. LOL!
As a staunch Merc Man I take note of the Big Three spanking Mercury on the numbers. Amazing that it doesn't translate on the water tho:eek:. HE HE HE!!

cdavisdb 08-16-2014 08:22 AM

Very interesting graph! especially at the very low end, where torque is critical (planing slow in the slop). I'd like to see how that compares with a 5.7 V8 I/O.

And yeah, they are ugly as home made sin, but performance cures a multitude of sins.

gofastsandman 08-16-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RidgeRunner (Post 230115)
Love your post GFS (even the ones I can't understand) BUT I Doubt that (600 lb/ft) with all my heart. Unless it were a diesel. AND The very thing that the e-tec's lacked was operating range on the big end..Noone can get past the limiter.
Go fast guys are complaining that they could reach their terminal velocity if they could get the e-tec to turn some more RPM.. Monty being the main man that has taken the e-tec to the next level. (see 130 MPH STV on the Suwannee)
I like that they are trying to develop something NEW.. Because they keep new products coming to market they will eventually make something I need.. Remember it cost dollars cubed to develop and test new product, I will give them chops for that...

I do so enjoy writing here. I only wish I could see Denny shaking his head whilst reading.

I`d like to see a cut away of the exhaust and the rave valve. I understand it is a gate valve which expands/ opens the exhaust as rpms climb. Note the first funny bump in torque.

It looks like they let me design the graph format re numbers.

So if the lower is 1.85, it looks like 570 ft lbs at 3,170.
600 ft lbs at 3,900 if I guessed well on my homework assignment.
Right where you need it!

Also note it holds 270 hp to 6k rpm.

Now you know why I chose yellow for the Merc curves...

Bryan A. 08-17-2014 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin (Post 230124)
G2 styling reminds me of the Chrysler outboards. 1970's Retro!

http://www.hurrikain.com/Franzmarine/franz1.jpg

I used to have one of those!!!

Buy the time I got it the Chrysler motor was shot so we hung a 115 looper on it.

Loved it as a 14. Year old kid. Fast too.


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