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Thurston 11-15-2014 08:46 PM

23 SeaCraft Tsunami Rebuild?
 
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Any thoughts on this boat as a potential CC conversion? I have not gone to meet the guy and look at the boat up close yet. What should a hull like this cost? Thanks!

McGillicuddy 11-15-2014 09:49 PM

Certainly worth the $grand they're asking...I wouldnt burn the $/energy on making it a cc because its a great design as it is. But to each their own. Hard to find a 23' SeaCraft hull for a grand. Do you have a trailer or is the guy willing to deliver?

kmoose 11-15-2014 10:18 PM

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I wouldn't trade my Tsunami for 2 Center consoles of the same condition.... Once you go with the express you will never consider anything else. Way more usable room at the stern where you want it and a very usable cutty. Having a full windshield is nice too.

kmoose 11-15-2014 10:19 PM

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Quite the "bowling ally" they are.

Thurston 11-15-2014 11:01 PM

I have a trailer to move the boat. 95% of my use would be running up and down the Indian River with the family and that's about it. I'm not a big fisherman so I will not be building this with that in mind.

I may keep the design as is after looking at more restorations and seeing how good looking these boats are when cleaned up! Biggest concern I have is going to be cost of restoration as this will be my first!

Nervous and excited!

McGillicuddy 11-16-2014 12:36 AM

IMO the cuddy would only benefit the family. A little shade, a little napping space, changing, sunning on the cuddy cap, camping, toy-towing, etc. ...It'll help the wallet, too - much less modification work.

Good luck with your decision. The Sceptre/Tsunami is really a great all-around family boat, much better for that than a cc which is pretty purely fishing oriented.

Cheers, and welcome aboard.:cool:

Thurston 11-16-2014 10:02 AM

I have always owned CC boats so this will be a new design for me. Any thoughts or pics you can share? I would like to have a hard top and I need seating for at least 5-6pppl, easy access to the bow. I will use an outboard on a bracket to power the boat. I would be open to removing the windshield or replacing it to give the boat an updated or sleeker design. Does anyone have any pics of the cuddly area?

I really need help with the layout and design on this one! Thanks for all the thoughts so far!

Blackfin26 11-16-2014 10:11 AM

$1K is fine. Keep the cuddy and just add a center console like the savage model. Best of both worlds.

Blue_Heron 11-16-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thurston (Post 232531)
...95% of my use would be running up and down the Indian River with the family and that's about it...

...Biggest concern I have is going to be cost of restoration as this will be my first!

Nervous and excited!

If you have school age kids, and the usual schedule that goes along with that, it may be the cost in time that you can't afford. It wasn't until my youngest graduated high school that I could find enough time for a boat restoration. The rule of thumb around here is to estimate the cost in time and cash and then double it. Think hard about your budget for both hours and dollars before you commit.
Dave

Thurston 11-16-2014 11:43 AM

Blue Heron- Excellent thought about time and my kids. Unfortunately they live in Ga with there mom so I only have them for long weekends or holiday breaks and summer. Also I have a friend that is a master glass/composite craftsman that will do most of the work while stand by as his apprentice!

Thanks for the continued thoughts and comments!!

FLexpat 11-16-2014 12:09 PM

Decent buy for the hull. Looking at the photos I wouldn't be surprised to discover soft deck and or transom. Its a twin I/O with the engine&drives out so inspecting the transom should be easy. You may want to consider just getting it into running shape with a used I/O (single or pair; single will take transom patches and different motor beds but cheaper) and trying it before you dive whole hog into a rebuild with a major reconfiguration. If you really want to do a reconfig then think about a Savage setup. If you want a CC I suggest you be patient and buy that set-up; they are available and that would cost WAY less and be a lot faster than doing a complete change where all you keep is the shell of the hull.

Bushwacker 11-16-2014 04:38 PM

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[QUOTE=Thurston;232531 . . . I'm not a big fisherman so I will not be building this with that in mind.

I may keep the design as is after looking at more restorations and seeing how good looking these boats are when cleaned up! Biggest concern I have is going to be cost of restoration as this will be my first!

Nervous and excited![/QUOTE]

I agree with Kmoose . . . once you've gotten used to a boat with that big cockpit, a windshield and all the utility, dry storage and improved balance provided by the cuddy, you'll never want anything else! And for summertime Florida use, the capability to have a big sun top that covers the entire cockpit as in attached picturel is huge deal if you like shade!

The ONLY rationale for a CC configuration IMHO is that its good for fishing, but not much else, so if you're NOT a gung ho fishing guy, I'd leave it as is! The only other CC advantage is that handling dock lines and the anchor are a bit easier, and maybe that's why they're popular with newbie boaters. However those issues are easily handled with an anchor bracket and the OEM-type ladder for the walk-thru windshield that originally came with the Sceptre/Tsunami, along with a couple of permanently rigged bow lines running back to the cockpit and a pair of mid-ship mounted cleats adjacent to the helm. That console takes up lot's of useful room right in the middle of the boat while providing relatively little dry stowage, so room provided by the Sceptre/Tsunami type layout makes it much better for diving and general use with the family.

Thurston 11-16-2014 05:11 PM

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I really like the look of this boat!

Blackfin26 11-16-2014 08:51 PM

This! ^^^^^^^

jongolds 11-17-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackfin26 (Post 232539)
$1K is fine. Keep the cuddy and just add a center console like the savage model. Best of both worlds.

This actually always strike me as the worst of both worlds. Even with the Savage setup, bow access is less than optimal, you lose the shelter of the windshield and you eat up a ton of open cockpit space. Doesn't a large console with a head accomplish all the pluses of the Savage with less wasted space? No one is really sleeping in that cuddy are they?

Keep it as is. I have one and it has been great for our family.


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