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23Seacraft79 08-11-2015 07:30 AM

Bracket or no bracket on a 79 23' cc
 
Looking for feedback on whether or not to put a bracket on a 23cc. Capt chuck you out there on this one, your boat was my model for restoration. Im worried about performance and planing ability. Thanks in advance for any help.

Capt Chuck 08-11-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 23Seacraft79 (Post 238067)
Looking for feedback on whether or not to put a bracket on a 23cc. Capt chuck you out there on this one, your boat was my model for restoration. Im worried about performance and planing ability. Thanks in advance for any help.

I'm still out here :eek:

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thehermit 08-11-2015 06:15 PM

Bracket. Mr Potter said so too. Just ask Don Herman.

23Seacraft79 08-11-2015 09:08 PM

Ok, hermco, armstrong or something else??

flyingfrizzle 08-12-2015 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 23Seacraft79 (Post 238076)
Ok, hermco, armstrong or something else??

I think I know what one he likes :D

seabass08 08-12-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 23Seacraft79 (Post 238067)
Im worried about performance and planing ability. Thanks in advance for any help.

Extend the running surface of the hull with the bracket. Boat will plane quicker and give you better low speed handling.

kmoose 08-12-2015 10:27 AM

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I'm not a big bracket fan as I have converted one boat from a bracket and was much happier and set my 23 up with a hybrid option that is of much less cost than full floatation and a closed transom. Considering you have an OB hull already you might want to consider how I have set my rig up. For diving and access to the water it is hard to beat and performance wise it has been outstanding.

kmoose 08-12-2015 10:38 AM

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The 10' set back bracket is manually adjustable and allows the removal of the big stock engine well giving you all the room and more compared to a closed transom. Here's a pic of the inside. The splash well seems short but I have no issues with water getting in or backing down in seas. I also have a 3.5" raised deck so everything drain nicely as well.

seabass08 08-12-2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kmoose (Post 238090)
The 10' set back bracket is manually adjustable and allows the removal of the big stock engine well giving you all the room and more compared to a closed transom. Here's a pic of the inside. The splash well seems short but I have no issues with water getting in or backing down in seas. I also have a 3.5" raised deck so everything drain nicely as well.

This is a great option as well and much less expensive than a new bracket. However, the center of gravity is further back on a cc compared to your boat, it is likely the setback bracket will cause more issues than it will fix on a cc.

I do love the idea of being able to adjust the height of the engine on the fly with a hydrolic jack plate though.

DonV 08-12-2015 12:34 PM

"The 10' set back bracket is manually adjustable"....Moose's is not hydraulic. However you could sure as heck put one on.

kmoose 08-12-2015 12:41 PM

You will still have to deal with CG issues either way to some degree. Spend your money building the deck light and moving the batteries forward. The 10" bracket won't be an issue considering you will be getting rid of the weight of the giant engine well. A big set of tabs will fix anything else underway and provide additional planing surface area that is adjustable as well.

kmoose 08-12-2015 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DonV (Post 238093)
"The 10' set back bracket is manually adjustable"....Moose's is not hydraulic. However you could sure as heck put one on.

I thought about that too but in retrospect you only have to fool with it until it is right and then never mess with it again. If it was a flats boat that would be a different story but for the 23's you can only get so much blood from a turnip.

dave s 08-12-2015 01:58 PM

Moose, can you tilt your motor all the way up with that short splashwell gate?

kmoose 08-12-2015 02:10 PM

Yes but not to horizontal, I have to set the limiter but I can tilt it up where the foot is above the bottom of the hull and it's a 30 inch motor. I'll try and get some better pics of the set up.

ChadsSeaCraft 08-14-2015 10:44 PM

I had a Hermco bracket installed on my 1978 23' CC 300hp etec, last winter by Don. It is the best thing I have done to the boat by far. I have been down in the Keys for the past week and the boat rides better then ever and it makes it so much easier to get on the boat with our dive gear on.

I am also using Capt.Chuck's boat as a model for mine. I had an opportunity to ride on his boat and loved everything about it. I should of bought it when I had the chance.


Thanks,
MIke

DonV 08-15-2015 07:44 AM

Mike, A good case of "ya snooze, ya loose" on Chuck's boat. :)

FAS 08-15-2015 07:35 PM

whats the hermco bracket gonna cost me on my next 23 . a early I/0,changed to an outboard, needs a lot...I'm in NY and will do the install.

ChadsSeaCraft 08-15-2015 10:46 PM

Here is a link to Don's web site.


http://www.hermco.com/brackets/

Old'sCool 08-15-2015 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FAS (Post 238188)
whats the hermco bracket gonna cost me on my next 23 . a early I/0,changed to an outboard, needs a lot...I'm in NY and will do the install.

Looks like he has a hiccup bracket for sale too!

Bigshrimpin 08-17-2015 05:56 PM

23 does well with a bracket. Hermit and I made one a few years ago (2009) for his 23 (42" wide if I remember correctly) . . . performance is great. It's a little tricky getting the height dialed in. I'm probably going to make one for my 23 this winter remove the splashwell. I'm tired of pumping out the baitwell. I'm either going to seal it off baitwell or enclose the transom, build a bracket and reclaim the deck space.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/..._013.sized.jpg


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