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SeaMonkey 02-03-2016 11:12 AM

New Member/Owner with a "Barn-Find"
 
I found this hull last week and I could not help but see a terrific looking boat wanting to emerge.

I personally do not have any history with these boats and need some help in identifying the year range. The Hull ID# was glassed over by a prior owner in a gunnel cap project. The title says 1978, but it also said Searay instead of SeaCraft (I got that fixed at the tag office yesterday).

There are some interior design features that I have not seen on any of the other 1978 pictures that are posted on the interweb. The front deck storage configuration is a different size and design than others I have seen. Also the port and starboard interior bow have these storage shelves with small teak trim piece that seem unique. The aft utility boxes also seem different from other SeaCrafts. The boat measures 20'6" at the centerline.

I am about to start the restoration process this month. She is gonna get a new transom, fuel tank, console, four stroke motor, electrical, Leaning Post, T-Top, and paint inside and out.

I am looking forward to hearing from the SeaCraft enthusiast on this forum any insight they may have about this boat.

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TomParis 02-03-2016 11:38 AM

Welcome to the best forum on the internet. Don't forget that when adding a 4 stroke that Seacraft boats were designed to have a motor on them that was no more than 350 lbs or so. If you want to add a heavier motor then you have to add a bracket. Everyone wants to hang the biggest motor possible, but I believe a 20 or 18 Seacarft will perform just fine with a 90 HP motor. As far as your boat, I have not seen one quite like that, but I will await the Seacraft experts to respond. Either way welcome aboard!

Capt Chuck 02-03-2016 01:15 PM

Welcome to CSC but unfortunately your hull is NOT A SEACRAFT.
Use the search function to view the config of a Variable Dead Rise hull to yours.

TomParis 02-03-2016 01:28 PM

btw Randy, you have a knack for refurbishing boats, love what you did with the Key West boat on your previous project.

SeaMonkey 02-03-2016 02:31 PM

Thank you Tom. The Key West turned out well.

Capt Chuck...Not a SeaCraft? Any suggestions on what it is? There are so many similar features & lines to the SeaCraft, I was almost certain of it...back to the interweb.

Capt Chuck 02-03-2016 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaMonkey (Post 241442)
Capt Chuck...Not a SeaCraft? Any suggestions on what it is? There are so many similar features & lines to the SeaCraft, I was almost certain of it...back to the interweb.

Your hull I'd might be glassed over but your HIN would be listed on the title. It would start with "SEC" if it's a SeaCraft. Looking at the transom picture that hull is not a VDH.

RUSTYNTABATHA 02-03-2016 04:50 PM

looking at the boxes in the back and the shape I would look at Offshore hulls... Offshore being the brand name...

RUSTYNTABATHA 02-03-2016 05:27 PM

nope... not an offshore .. Next guess would be a concept ...

thehermit 02-03-2016 05:30 PM

Looks like a Barcone

Try looking up Continental Barcone

Built by Barry Barcone I think. They are nice boats. Lots of foam under that deck though. If the console is glassed to the deck that will be a sign.

C_Biscuit 02-03-2016 05:34 PM

I agree with Continental Barcone, from the picture I found in this forum at the start of this thread: http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...ad.php?t=24166

SeaMonkey 02-03-2016 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehermit (Post 241452)
Looks like a Barcone

Try looking up Continental Barcone

Built by Barry Barcone I think. They are nice boats. Lots of foam under that deck though. If the console is glassed to the deck that will be a sign.

And we have a winner!!! 100% confirmation on the Barcone 21. Not a SeaCraft, but still a worthy project. Initial investment was $300 for boat and trailer.

You can definitely tell that Barry got some inspiration from Potter...maybe they were cousins.

thehermit 02-03-2016 06:40 PM

Winning ! Nice. What do I get what do I get?!?

My buddy had one with a 175 on the back. He loved it. We did find the gas tank foamed in and it leaked an filled all the foam with fuel. He cut the console off and cut the floor out under console for access. He also cut the rear of the deck and did a transom to 25".

Shear line of a SeaCraft......bottom of a Wellcraft v20.

Fr. Frank 02-03-2016 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehermit (Post 241452)
Looks like a Barcone

Try looking up Continental Barcone

Built by Barry Barcone I think. They are nice boats. Lots of foam under that deck though. If the console is glassed to the deck that will be a sign.

Most likely a Barcone, but just to throw monkey wrench in the works, Angler also made this same hull for one year only after they bought the Continental molds; I think it was '78 or '79. (Edit: The Angler hull was made in '82)

Continental also made a 21' cuddy version of the Seafari 20' on top of this hull. Without looking closely at the VDH hull, even SeaCraft enthusiasts have been fooled by that one.

flyingfrizzle 02-04-2016 09:35 AM

I had a 1978 deep vee continental 21 cc a long time back. It was a very good riding hull. Lot of bow flare and was dry riding. Floor had soft spots and I started to work on it when I found my first seacraft hull. Aborted the 21 and started on the seacraft. If I didn't stumble on a $300 sc hull I may of still have the continental today. I wouldn't be afraid to build it. It may not have the seacraft ride or near as high as a resale but it will make a good boat never the less.

CoreyTrx 02-04-2016 10:01 AM

Definitely a Barcone. I had the same one. I loved the boat. I did a total restore. I wish I still had it. Everyone thought it was a Seacraft until I told them it wasn't or they saw the bottom.

SeaMonkey 02-04-2016 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingfrizzle (Post 241479)
I wouldn't be afraid to build it. It may not have the seacraft ride or near as high as a resale but it will make a good boat never the less.

Thanks for the encouragement. I plan to give it my best. My goal is to fix it up just enough for a new life in Nassau. It seems a good layout for snorkeling and bottom fishing. Based on its similarities to the SeaCraft 20 Center Console, I am considering the 140 Suzuki four stroke for power.

Ryan 02-04-2016 10:42 PM

I can't tell you how many times I've seen one and been fooled. From the waterline up they are very similar. Still a cool little boat. Keep us posted on your progress!


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