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HappyEnding 03-22-2016 06:46 AM

23 CC and thinking 300 Suzuki Repower
 
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Hi Guys,

I am repowering my 2004 23 CC and leaning towards the 300 Suzuki. Merc 225 Opti on there now.

Am I good with the weight of 620lbs? Seems like it, but just double checking here with folks with experience.

Thoughts on a jack plate? Don't have one now. Are they really a big difference maker? If so, how much setback is needed? 5" or 10"?

Thanks

DonV 03-22-2016 08:50 AM

Look down six threads in the same section your post is in, the "performance" section, and there are some answers for you.

HappyEnding 03-22-2016 09:46 AM

I did read that thread, but those are some different configurations with either a floatation bracket, older models, or Seafaris/Tsunamis.

Wondering if anyone had thoughts for the CC models from the 2000's.

Thanks

kmoose 03-22-2016 05:16 PM

5 or 10" cmc bracket and a 300ap will be all you will ever want. You could even go with a 25" on the transom and it would work great. For the money there isn't a better deal out there.

Duxbait 03-22-2016 08:15 PM

The 300 is a great motor for that hull. I know there are some threads on here with a 300 on a newer hull. The weight isn't an issue with that new model.

HappyEnding 03-25-2016 08:39 AM

Thanks, I pulled the trigger and looking forward to getting it on there! Suzuki has some special promos going right now and its a killer deal on motors!

bigtahuna 03-25-2016 08:51 AM

I put a 300 Suzuki on the transom of my '98. The stern does sit a little deeper in the water but not to the point of getting water on the deck. I think if you move the mounting point back with a jack plate it will give the weight of the motor more leverage to lower the stern. I had the new motor mounted in the same hole as the 225 Opti that I took off, center of five holes. The Suzuki seems to mount lower, I don't think it's just the weight difference, it looks like the whole mount sits lower on the transom. I'm thinking I might have to raise it one hole. I wouldn't bother with any setback.

Reelsknotty 04-08-2016 01:18 PM

I had a 2005 23' SC with a 250 Verado and the boat sat fine. The verado is quite a bit heavier than the Suzuki so you should be fine.

Stickalip 04-11-2016 08:40 PM

Am I the only one re powering with G2 300?

DonV 04-11-2016 09:27 PM

I wish I was!!! I would love a 250 HO G2, however I would have to sleep with it....along with the no-see-ums!! :(

gofastsandman 04-11-2016 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DonV (Post 242952)
I wish I was!!! I would love a 250 HO G2, however I would have to sleep with it....along with the no-see-ums!! :(

Oh, they see you.

Twins please.

caboman22 04-11-2016 10:46 PM

I just installed a f300 Yamaha on my 1974 23cc and raised the transom to 30".
Can't wait to finish up and see what she does on the water.. Good luck

kmoose 04-12-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickalip (Post 242949)
Am I the only one re powering with G2 300?

You may be but there are a few things I think people are struggling with. One is the radical new design. I saw one up close and have a hard time with the look. I get the form and function but radical changes in appearance can go one of 2 ways in the public eye and I think they would have been better off going with the engine redesign first and then move to appearance change later.

Not sure of the cost difference either but I don't think anyone gets close to Suzuki's price point for repower. Don't they weigh pretty much the same as well?

Bottom line is that the G2 will need to get some service time on the water before any real confidence will be established. The other big three are getting so much transom time on the water it will be a tough road for Rude unless some real magic occurs in price point or performance along the way.

Stickalip 04-12-2016 12:20 PM

Yami 300 w/electronic controls $30K, G2w/ electronic controls, rigging, installed, SS prop and upgrade on the gauges also. $23,7(boat show package)
For that price Ill learn to like the look and put the savings into dash electronics. I too wasnt crazy with that look but I saw it in all black and its not that bad. Also, you can get those side panels wrapped if you choose. Watching the promo videos and plenty of good news there but I agree with you... longevity is key. I m just a little surprised more SC'ers arent biting on the power that this OB puts out, not to mention great fuel #ers & less maintenance.

kmoose 04-12-2016 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickalip (Post 242963)
Yami 300 w/electronic controls $30K, G2w/ electronic controls, rigging, installed, SS prop and upgrade on the gauges also. $23,7(boat show package)
For that price Ill learn to like the look and put the savings into dash electronics. I too wasnt crazy with that look but I saw it in all black and its not that bad. Also, you can get those side panels wrapped if you choose. Watching the promo videos and plenty of good news there but I agree with you... longevity is key. I m just a little surprised more SC'ers arent biting on the power that this OB puts out, not to mention great fuel #ers & less maintenance.

I just got a new 30" DF300 installed with prop and upgraded Simrad C10 gauge for $18.4k @ International Marine Service in Florida. 5300 clams buys a lot of Suzuki love!

SandlapperGT 04-12-2016 04:07 PM

Sorry to derail, and I will be happy to move if needed, but I just picked up a '74 23 Sceptre. Not sure if I will keep the current config, or convert to a CC. Regardless, my thought is a 250-300 Suzuki or Etec on a jack plate.

Is it necessary and/or recommended to raise the deck, and if so, how much?

TIA- SandlapperGT

kmoose 04-13-2016 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SandlapperGT (Post 242966)
Sorry to derail, and I will be happy to move if needed, but I just picked up a '74 23 Sceptre. Not sure if I will keep the current config, or convert to a CC. Regardless, my thought is a 250-300 Suzuki or Etec on a jack plate.

Is it necessary and/or recommended to raise the deck, and if so, how much?

TIA- SandlapperGT

First, if you have a 74 it is a Tsunami not a Sceptre but that is just semantics. To answer your question, a 250 is more than ample power and is what I ran on my Tsunami for years. Raise the deck.... ehhh I don't think it is a necessity if you don't mind a little water on the deck when everybody runs to the back. That said, if you are getting into a restore that involves replacing the deck, fuel tank, etc. I would put it on the top of the list for improvements. It's a major project but in the end it is a better way to go if you like dry tootsies.

SandlapperGT 04-13-2016 10:44 AM

Thank you Moose- still trying to learn all of the nuances between the different models!

The part of the deck has been pulled and the 110 gl tank removed so I think it makes sense to go ahead and raise the deck a couple of inches- do it right so there are no regrets later on. Still going back and forth on the deck layout, but leaning towards replacing the single 110 gl with two tanks- maybe a 65 and 45.

Dont want to derail any more so will start a new thread when i get started. Just saw many 23 owners here so thought I would take advantage of the knowledge.

seakat 04-15-2016 10:01 AM

I would love to put a G2 on my '99 23, but I have a perfectly functioning F250 and can't see spending all that money when my boat already runs well.Good luck with it.

pelican 04-17-2016 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by seakat (Post 243021)
I would love to put a G2 on my '99 23, but I have a perfectly functioning F250 and can't see spending all that money when my boat already runs well.Good luck with it.

smart man !

that F250 - it will run forever !

when I had my shop - client had a charter boat,pair of F250's,they had 4,000 hrs on them
ran perfect

HappyEnding 04-17-2016 02:47 PM

As for cost, I got the new 300 Suzuki, controls, SS prop, digital gauge and all that is needed, old motor pulled, new on installed, done deal. $20k. Hard to beat that!

Captdj 05-30-2016 03:15 PM

I think I read right that you already had the repower done, but I just did the same thing. 2001 23 Seacraft with a 300 Suzuki 30 inch shaft mounted right on the transom. Love it do with I could get the last inch of the motor out of the water when its tiled up in the slip, but I didn't want to put a bracket on or a jack plate.

Briguy 06-05-2016 11:14 PM

So where are your numbers OP? Did the other guy get his G2?

Briguy 06-05-2016 11:16 PM

If you want the last inch of motor out of the water when in the slip you can do it easy.
Put 50 lbs in the bow. Raise the motor one bolt hole.

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Originally Posted by Captdj (Post 244189)
I think I read right that you already had the repower done, but I just did the same thing. 2001 23 Seacraft with a 300 Suzuki 30 inch shaft mounted right on the transom. Love it do with I could get the last inch of the motor out of the water when its tiled up in the slip, but I didn't want to put a bracket on or a jack plate.


Captdj 06-07-2016 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Briguy (Post 244336)
If you want the last inch of motor out of the water when in the slip you can do it easy.
Put 50 lbs in the bow. Raise the motor one bolt hole.

I'll have to check what hole I am mounted in. It's running great so not wanting to start messing around and going up and down holes.


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