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rcnight 07-22-2016 07:07 AM

Antique Registration
 
Gents: I recall seeing some talk about this but couldn't find anything in my searches. What is the age requirement for a discounted Florida registration? I have 83 & 79 vessels. Thanks

bumpdraft 07-22-2016 08:54 AM

here you go (note engine)
 
https://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/forms/BTR/87243.pdf

DonV 07-22-2016 09:35 AM

If I remember correctly it's only $6.25 per year, not bad! :)

rcnight 07-22-2016 10:43 AM

Thanks bumpdraft, you just saved me quite a few $$$$.

bumpdraft 07-22-2016 11:14 AM

Looking at the form, it indicates the same year engine as original. The statute dose not seem to be as clear. Also, if you get that discount, it appears that you can't also take $3.92 off for having locator beacon.

kmoose 07-22-2016 11:26 AM

Has to have the same year and type motor it came with. No help for me.

DonV 07-22-2016 11:37 AM

I had no problem getting mine with a different engine, I just told them it was still powered by an outboard, which is the same type power it came with. Plus you get a cool "antique vessel" decal....it's the little things. :)

Vezo, Part II 07-22-2016 11:56 AM

That is how I was trying to interpret it. But my long time friend, originally from Columbia, SC, now living nearby in Hudson, Fla, has everything he owns still registered in SC. To continue receiving my disability, I cannot make HB my primary residence. Oh well.

Oh, and Don, speaking of the little things, like roasted red peppers and Locatelli Pecorino Romano. Oh My!.!

rcnight 07-22-2016 12:53 PM

I looks like it should also work for my '79 sailboat. Still uses sail power, never had an internal combustion engine.

bumpdraft 07-22-2016 01:35 PM

What I'm reading on the form, I agree with moose. The statute doesn't exactly say that and I don't know about anything on sailboats.

from Fl statutes;

2) ANTIQUE VESSEL REGISTRATION FEE.—
(a) A vessel that is at least 30 years old, used only for recreational purposes, and powered by the vessel’s original-type power plant may be registered as an antique vessel. When applying for registration as an antique vessel, the owner of such a vessel shall submit certification, as prescribed by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles or from a marine surveyor that the vessel meets the requirements of this paragraph.
(b) The registration number for an antique vessel shall be permanently attached to each side of the forward half of the vessel as provided in ss. 328.48 and 328.54.
(c) The Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles may issue a decal identifying the vessel as an antique vessel. The decal shall be displayed as provided in ss. 328.48 and 328.54.

I'm guessing it would depend on how the local tax office interprets it.

martin 07-22-2016 03:27 PM

Antique registration for Seacrafts and whaler
 
I did not have any issues other than telling them that it is still powered by outboards...it depends on the lady working the counter..the lady had to get a supervisor to override it for me...

bumpdraft 07-22-2016 03:56 PM

I was just talking to a friend who has an 84 Mako 25'. He told me that he walked into the local tax/hsmv office and asked for the antique registration, because of its age. He didn't remember exactly what he paid, but he handed the lady a five dollar bill and got change back. I'll have to remember that for next year.

Fr. Frank 07-23-2016 09:42 AM

According to the tax collector here in Okaloosa County, Florida, the requirement for an original-type power-plant only refers to I/O or inboard vessels, and does not apply to vessels originally manufactured to use outboard motors, because outboards are not manufactured with a power-plant; Those are added later by the dealer.

In other words, if you converted from inboard or I/O to outboard, you're out of luck. If you converted from gas to diesel or vice versa, same thing.

I paid a little less than $10 for two years of registration.

Schniz 07-27-2016 11:39 AM

Just did my '78 20SF today. $4.75 a year ! Thanks for the info...

rcnight 08-03-2016 10:22 PM

Hey Gents, one more thing - on the FL form (87243) there's a place for a surveyors signature. Any way around this?

bumpdraft 08-03-2016 10:33 PM

Seems like you ditch the form and let tax office handle it.

Schniz 08-04-2016 02:22 PM

They didn't require a Marine surveyor signature, just the owners sig. They asked if it was original power and I said "yep, an outboard" 😉. Good to go....

rcnight 08-04-2016 04:50 PM

Yeah - I love old school. $4.75. I'm looking for some old cars next. Thanks for all the feedback.

bumpdraft 08-04-2016 05:55 PM

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Yeah - I love old school. $4.75. I'm looking for some old cars next. Thanks for all the feedback.

I took my tag that I bought, to the tag office, handed it to the woman at the counter and said I want to put this on my car. She looked at me funny and said, why is it so heavy? I said, its steel. After she talked to the supervisor, she got the form that I needed and after about a week, done.

NoBones 08-04-2016 08:25 PM

Dang Ron now thats cool, you even have an original Indian River tag....;)

I remember when in High School between myself, mom & dads tag
were 61D-54. 61D-55, 61D-56
My dads motorcycle was 61-5

61 was Flagler County... :D

bumpdraft 08-04-2016 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 245772)
Dang Ron now thats cool, you even have an original Indian River tag....;)

I remember when in High School between myself, mom & dads tag
were 61D-54. 61D-55, 61D-56
My dads motorcycle was 61-5

61 was Flagler County... :D

That is Really interesting. We are the original owners of the car and the first tag on it was 61-6.

NoBones 08-04-2016 08:59 PM

Here ya go...

1 Dade 24 St. Lucie 47 Citrus
2 Duval 25 Jackson 48 Clay
3 Hillsborough 26 Osceola 49 Hendry
4 Pinellas 27 Highlands 50 Washington
5 Polk 28 Pasco 51 Holmes
6 Palm Beach 29 Columbia 52 Baker
7 Orange 30 Hardee 53 Charlotte
8 Volusia 31 Suwanee 54 Dixie
9 Escambia 32 Indian River 55 Gilchrist
10 Broward 33 Santa Rosa 56 Hamilton
11 Alachua 34 DeSoto 57 Okeechobee
12 Lake 35 Madison 58 Calhoun
13 Leon 36 Walton 59 Franklin
14 Marion 37 Taylor 60 Glades
15 Manatee 38 Monroe 61 Flagler
16 Sarasota 39 Levy 62 Lafayette
17 Seminole 40 Hernando 63 Union
18 Lee 41 Nassau 64 Collier
19 Brevard 42 Martin 65 Wakulla
20 St. Johns 43 Okaloosa 66 Gulf
21 Gadsden 44 Sumter 67 Liberty
22 Putnam 45 Bradford 68 DMV Issue
23 Bay 46 Jefferson 90 Replacement

Link to code and class

DonV 08-04-2016 09:11 PM

Ken remember a the county number, like 7 for Orange County, only followed by numbers was a small car, county number followed by single "W" was a regular size car like a Ford, a "WW" was a large car, a truck was G/K. For example a 7WW-12345 tag would be a Cadillac type/size car in Orange county. A 7G/K-12345 was a pickup. Weird.

We did not have too much money we only could afford cars as high as a single "W". NO way a Lincoln, Oldsmobile, or Caddy.

Terry England 08-04-2016 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DonV (Post 245776)
Ken remember a the county number, like 7 for Orange County, only followed by numbers was a small car, county number followed by single "W" was a regular size car like a Ford, a "WW" was a large car, a truck was G/K. For example a 7WW-12345 tag would be a Cadillac type/size car in Orange county. A 7G/K-12345 was a pickup. Weird.

We did not have too much money we only could afford cars as high as a single "W". NO way a Lincoln, Oldsmobile, or Caddy.

Sports cars and split window VW bugs were a "D" weight classification - Hillsborough was prefaced with a 3 and Pinellas was 4. I think Dade was 1 and Duval was 2.
Why can I remember stuff like that but can't find my truck keys?
Hmmm, I'll check in the refrigerator!

bumpdraft 08-04-2016 09:30 PM

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That car got around.

There wasn't a big population in Bunnell back then Ken and that's where my wife's people are from. I need to pm you.

bumpdraft 08-04-2016 09:40 PM

Terry you are just too old. I know the feeling, can remember things from decades back and can't think of what I had for dinner last night. lol

Terry England 08-04-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bumpdraft (Post 245780)
Terry you are just too old. I know the feeling, can remember things from decades back and can't think of what I had for dinner last night. lol

Ronnie, I want to know who that Whipper Snapper is standing in your old 18? He looks kinda like a Trooper who stopped me on the Florida Turnpike in 1971 for a brake light being out (in my split window VW Bug)

NoBones 08-04-2016 09:52 PM

Face it boys, we are all just old cheap bastards now...:D:cool:

Gotta go time for my nightly medication !

bumpdraft 08-04-2016 10:04 PM

Terry, not a snapper, a kingfish. Yes that's me in the boat, I don't know about the other.

Terry England 08-04-2016 10:13 PM

Old's Cool
 
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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 245783)
Face it boys, we are all just old cheap bastards now...:D:cool:

Ken, I'm wondering when that "You'er old enough to know better" is going to kick in?

Stay thirsty my friend.

DonV 08-04-2016 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 245783)
Face it boys, we are all just old cheap bastards now...:D:cool:

Gotta go time for my nightly medication !

And damn proud of it!!!

Sincerely, Mr. Cheap Bastard!!

77SceptreOB 08-04-2016 11:07 PM

Being a native Floridian born in Clearwater in 1965, I believe the number of the county was based on the population at some point. I think "Q" was for antique cars. The rental and leased cars had a designation too "E" I think, although that was discontinued a while back due to criminals targeting tourists

kmoose 08-05-2016 06:20 AM

So, what motor would have come on my 74? It didn't have twins and I was only 9 at the time and can only remember who was on the Skipper Chuck show.

Capt Terry 08-05-2016 08:51 AM

I grew up in Ft. Pierce in St. Lucie County. Yes, I thought the county numbers on the license plates were originally by population. St. Lucie County was 24 and Vero Beach (Indian River County) was 32. Don't know how it is in Fla now, but then when you bought a used vehicle, the plate stayed with the car until the next year. I caught some flack, who the heck was this infiltrator from Vero, driving around the Ft. Pierce burger joints in a '61 Corvette, because it had 32 on the plate. BTW- I added a bumper hitch to tow the 14' Fabuglas.

bumpdraft 08-05-2016 01:46 PM

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I wonder if this boat survived to be an antique? Great place to launch.

Snookerd 08-05-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 245783)
Face it boys, we are all just old cheap bastards now...:D:cool:

Who are you calling old??:D

NoBones 08-05-2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Snookerd (Post 245805)
Who are you calling old??:D


Who has more gray hair ?? :eek:;)

Snookerd 08-05-2016 06:28 PM

That's going to leave a mark! :eek:

77SceptreOB 08-05-2016 07:10 PM

Looks like a SeaFari wanna be...


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