Official 1974 Tsnuami Build/Rebuild/or...?
 

Hey Guys, So making this my official thread vs posting over and over. Here's where i am at.... Purchased this boat in Fort Lauderdale and towed back to Idaho... Where it now lives... I wanted to Update this and make it as nice as my Formula 233 i did last year. So The question is... Do i just strip it and start from Scratch or Live with it for now... and worry when things become a problem....

1974 Seacraft Tsnami - Nicks Creative Marine did the transom glass work installed the Armstrong bracket and wired to the Tune of about $11,500 for the previous owner 2 years ago. I am not throwing them under the bus but the work... I will let the pictures tell the story...

So my question is... Do i Just strip everything down now... and fix it right, or live with it for 2 or 3 years until it presents bigger problems...

In the meantime consider this the primary build thread for this boat...

Here she is coming home to Idaho....

Problem Areas and Pictures
 

The engine can come up at least 2 inches if not 3. Right now the Bracket is mounted almost on top of the Drain Plug Hole... and it needs fixed. The epoxy patch on the right side is backing out... i am sure its water logged...

Here are the other Areas of Issue... and I plan on taking out the cnter console and moving everything back up to the front of the Boat... Its cold weather here 6 months of the Year... So yes we need a windshield. My Plan was to re-wire as needed doing that... but the more i look the more the wiring is a Joke... any and all thoughts appreciated... and or Ideas...

This is where the Notch in the Transom Was closed by Nicks Creative Marine and its already Cracked.... and on the Inside its Cracked and looks like its starting to Delaminate on the Repair...

Inside the Transom....

Getting Bead Blasted with Glass....

Got the Boot stripe, Boat numbers and Seacraft Sticker Removed today... and yes it's a ton of fun when its 25 degrees outside.... All you Florida boys just keep enjoying your weather in the 80's. Sheeshh.......

Good read finished with a Great Comment!!!

I've got two, actually three projects presently. I have no good advice for you. Just be familiar with the pronunciation and definition of the word "Procrastination". May as well add "Budget" to the list.

I'd use it but that's just me. Oh,yeah, mine are just about trailer queens. Cheers!

If there is any water in the transom you will see the cracks very soon with the Idaho winters. It was 8 degrees here last night so I definitely get that part. One of the deciding factors might be if you have a good (semi-warm) place to do the work should you decide to, or get forced, into re-doing it.

DF300 ZUKE ISSUES.... YEA More Problems!
 

Have exact 320 hours on he Suzuki DF300. Manage to run it for a whole 18 mins here at home before getting a 4-2 Code and it would not start. Have spent the last few Days... Working on the Engine since there are no Dealers close to me for the Zuke.

I know a lot of guys here love this motor but jesus... with no way to bypass the shift control to start and then needing the software to re-flash is quickly becoming a pain in the Ass.

On a good Note Mike at Outboard Specialties on the other side of the country has been a huge help. The new software should be here this week and then perhaps the boat will run again...

So Far this Boat is been a TOTAL POS to start... Feeling like i bought a LEMON instead of a Good Craft that just needed a cosmetic Face lift. Turning into a Major Project Fast....

Vezo thanks for the input... and YES budget is quickly spiraling out of control.... I was not looking for a Major Project just one that needed a Good Cosmetic Facelift.... So far this is turning into a Major Money Pit Fast....

Flex - Could not agree more. I have the sneaking suspicion you're right on the money... about the water. Just uber surprised more than anything at the so called Great Boat Shops who did the Work on this thing and i would have Shoved the Bill up the Back side for the quality of work.... Also got your PM TYVM...

Robert

Progress... Coming Along
 

Yesterday in the nice chilly 23 degree day i was able to remove all the hardware, side vents and old Aluminum Rub rail. The rub rail was a PIA as it had many broken screws and i am getting good at Breaking Shit easily when i get P.O'ed.

Also installed a new Neutral Switch and Neutral position sensor on the 300 zuke taking longer to remove the side cowling than to put the switches in. I am taking it over to be Re-flashed today to see if it cures the 4-2 Engine code. Once this is fixed I am selling the 300 Zuke and i am strongly considering a 400R Verado.

This morning its beautiful out and the temp is hovering at 9 degrees doubt i am getting much done today.

Last Week Udpates
 

Over the last week i have managed to make 2 trips to Portland Oregon which is 450 miles each way x 2 to have service on the 300 Zuke. I cannot for the life of me figure out what all the HYPE IS....

IMHO the Suzuki is one of the Biggest POS i have ever owned and at 320 hours totally ridiculous the codes these throw.

I have it up and running good again and just placed it on craigslist for sale today... Going back to the Verado...

Also got the Rub Rail off this week and started grinding out small cracks and spider webs with the dremel.... It's Chilly here now, was a light 8 degrees this morning...

Wont be getting much done over the nexxt 2 weeks until the shop is ready for me to pull her into...

I saw this boat for sale here in Florida and wondered where it went.
Seemed like a good deal at the time; sorry your finding so many problems.
After seeing some of these repairs that supposedly professional shops have done down here that's why I try to do most repairs myself.
Been out in CA lately otherwise I would be happy to be working on a project boat.
Good luck and yeah get a warm enclosure to work in.

when I had my shop:

I was amazed at some of the things I seen - seen from all sides

"all sides" being:

repairs boat owners attempted

repairs other shops attempted

what boat manufactures produced

very few people have pride in their work !

people often get in over their head - they believe their abilities are much greater,than they truly are...


Suzuki motors - not a big fan ! they're famous for corroding,seen many late model motors corroded in many different locations - seen a lot of problems in the 200/250's,including them ingesting throttle body screws.

I didn't work on verado's

Problems on single year production models over ten years since corrected. Yawn....

What were the codes it was throwing? What did the dealer fix? How much are you asking for the motor?

My '02 df140 has performed flawlessly.

The only corrosion issue Suzuki had was a dissimilar metal casting plug in a 4 month production run of the early df140s. It was a big deal as it caused early failure of the midsection where the plug was. As far as the 2004 df200-250 that ingested the air throttle body screws, this was a result of a failure to apply thread locker on the screws during assembly of the plenum. This also was a single year limited run issue to which not all the year's run was affected. The stupid part of that issue was the hysteria created about the screws caused by non-Suzuki engine techs scaring Suzuki owners into paying to have the screws checked or R&R with Loctite. Part of that blame landed on Suzuki as in 2004 there were hardly any qualified service centers and techs so if you needed service it fell on unqualified techs that would turn every screw on the motor trying to "fix" things. Ask me how I know....

Here ya go Ken...

Craig List

think you may have missed this part mouse:

they're famous for corroding,seen many late model motors corroded in many different locations ...


now,when you own a shop and repair MANY motors,you get to see a lot of different things - things most owners don't - even internet legends,such as yourself mouse...

the numerous suzukis I've repaired/serviced - lots have had corrosion in many different areas - oil pans,mid sections,lower units,cylinder heads - corrosion causing problems with shift linkages seizing - all kinds of fun stuff mouse...in addition to having repaired quite a few 140's with the steel plug problems

seen many problems with their harness's and gauges

notice I didn't touch on the paint problems ?

see mouse,i base my opinions upon what I've seen and experienced,owning a shop is a little different than owning just one motor.see mouse,when you have a shop,you work on a lot of motors/boats - also,there's various training programs you need to take,in order to stay on top of the ever changing technology - attending these programs,you meet a large amount of others,in the business and "war stories" are often swapped - speaking about what you've been seeing,as far as failures/problems are concerned,with various motors - get the idea,or did I lose you mouse ? this is real world experience,NOT a bunch of internet legends,typing away,spewing their very limited experience,and VERY limited knowledge


there ya go mouse,i gave you what you wanted,a reply - feel better now ?


I just realized it's "kmoose" - thought it was "kmouse"...sorry mouse,i mean moose...

That's a great price Robert and I don't think you will have any problem selling it. It's a shame you don't have a qualified tech closer to you to help resolve the issue but your working with a good with a good one from a distance.

Perfect response! It is everything we expected it to be. No doubt you were guy that has seen every out of warranty, used and abused basket case within driving distance. Didn't even know they sold so many up where you migrated from considering your vast experience with the brand. Funny you don't have experience to make any recommendations on the Mercurys? I imagine you around for all the early opti issues but I guess you were too busy fixing all those rotten Suzuki junkers. Guess I should sell mine too and convert to an I/O....

let it go mouse...

Intermission please....

While I make a very large adult beverage....;)

release the kraken

Ahhh, the Garden State.

I completely fail to understand you.
Maybe catch some fly balls from your pop?

No Welly for the pelican!

Ahhh, the Garden State! Great place to have been raised, just had to get out at a young age. Obviously, you can take the boy out of New Jersey, but you can't take the New Jersey out of the Boy. Can anyone verify the boy has a SeaCraft? GFS, didn't you borrow a trailer from him? Is he bigger than you or I? Can't imagine anyone writing this type of crap had he ever met Ken or his wife. Verbal diarrhea. Has not changed much since his introduction. Just my .02.

Vezo, Part II

I hear through the "coconut telegraph" Mike will speak his mind! Well done Sir! :)

What a mysterious bird the pelican. His beak can hold more than his belly can. He can take in his beak, enough ANIMOSITY for a week, I'm damned if I know how the hell he can!

Oh my, that pirate babe on the "Blackheart" rum almost looks as sexy as my avatar :eek:

As we get older, quality over quantity seems to become a priority. Crazen Rum. 80 proof is sufficient. Mr. Pelican, I tried to give you some Southerly advice upon your Intro; do you take constructive criticism well? As a company owner from Jersey, do you still remember the term "Tool"?

My Mom always told me, "No one likes a tool".

Welcome to the site?

Vezo, Part II

A combo of ATF and acetone tests just behind
Aero Kroil.

Why not join in the fun and share your knowledge and happiness?

As Toddslures said, what good is knowledge if you don't share it.

Cheers,
GFS

wow ! you guys really got your panties all knotted up !

yes,"gofastsandman" along with ken,they did meet me - ken,very nice gentleman ! I read that sandman needed a trailer,i lent him mine - I know a terrible thing to do,what a mean and nasty man I am,what kind of a jerk,allows a another person,he doesn't even know,to use a boat trailer,with full legal paperwork,for as long as he needed it....ken,he offered me a spot to store it,and he stored it for me,right down the street from my house...sandman,a very skinny,older gentleman,appeared the 60's were very good to him,read that as chemicals were used.he was wearing white framed sunglasses and appeared rather cartoon like.his advice"do not trust anyone in florida"
ken,myself and sandman had a very nice conversation,on a chilly day for about an hour

god has blessed me with abilities,along with a very good memory - he forgot to give me patience

one of the topics of our conversation was the advice given on varying websites,concerning repairs/modifications,ETC.i was asked about opening a shop here - my reply was simple - NO WAY ! after being in business,i had enough !


now:


this reminds me of the red necks fighting it out in the stands at a nascar race...

clearly,ol' moose(notice I got that right) got very offended by me stating my experience with a certain outboard MFG...go back and read where it started...yes,my reply was a little rough...it's clear,me and moose,we butt heads - we've butted heads over his unrealistic claims.


I apologize for stating my experiences

Let`s stop stomping on this thread please.