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put My 25 on the chopping block?
been thinking about turning my 25 Seafari in to a center console, the closer I get to retirement the more Ive been wanting a big center console and seeing that I have a good hull that's already been coverted to outboards Ive been considering it. Ive spoken to My friend who runs a local fiberglass shop and he is gonna do some figuring and come up with a price to do the project. It will be a bare bones basic battlewagon to use for fishing and crusing. I know yall will think its a sin to cut up such a classic but shes been for sale for over 2 years and no offers so I figure what the hell.
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Ya know Phil, this is where I would make a trip to your local Publix or CVS and get a tube of K-Y jelly. It may be needed! :) :eek:
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I would definitely run that by Flying Time, Connor and Blue Heron and get some opinions before cutting. The sensitivity of the 25 hull's handling might be exacerbated by even more pushing weight aft. could send unexpecting folks swimming.:eek:
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If you just want a bare bones big center console, there are lots of those around these days, probably for a lot less than what butchering this one will cost you, especially if you have to pay someone else to do the work! |
I see both sides to this. Owning a Seafari is a little depressing because once you've got one your pretty much stuck with it. seems like you have to give them away to get em sold. On the other hand, it's a great boat with a great layout. I can only imagine the 25 is a beast compared to my 20. A 25 cc would be pretty awesome though.
If you're gonna do it we will be excited to see it. I'd bet that it will cost you at least 15 k to convert it to a cc, hell probably more. There are a few 27 cc out there that are probably a better deal |
I think BigFluke made a CC out of a 25 - If I recall correctly he put the engine under the console with a jackshaft to a Weismann racing outdrive. He is a Naval Architect in HI so I suspect he got the balance right. Big Shrimpin probably knows a whole lot more about it.
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theres a 27 seacraft with twin 225 optis for sale in south florida for $16k. Could be run the way it is, or refurbished to make a really nice boat.
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well so much for that idea. he quoted 18k to do it but didn't want to do it because it "wouldn't work" . He knows little about Seacraft hulls but said it would throw the COG off so bad that the boat would not perform the way it was originally designed and it would be a waist of money.
got a link for that 27? |
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think I found the 27 on CL if its the black one , might have to take a road trip and check it out.
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There is a reason Potter didn't make the 25' CC into production.
They couldn't get it right :( I would think twice about your idea. Listen to all the above advise. |
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Pics of the CC 25 conversion Attachment 14279 Attachment 14280 The one with the outdrive... Attachment 14281 |
Saw this on Tampa CL
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If the floor is out, I don't see why you couldn't add 300-500lbs of glass / lead to the hull to the center section. You would also be able to reinforce the weak area in front of the stringers.
BigFluke told us where the LCG should be from the heel of the boat (7.9ft). Notch the transom, lose the bracket, and add some weight low in the hull up front (larger fuel tank + extra glass / lead). I think this 150gallon tank could fit. I have to measure, b/w the stringers again. http://www.easternmarine.com/moeller...l-tank-ft15004 The pic is from a 23, but you get the idea where I am talking about adding weight. http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/..._weightadd.jpg |
well I did find a complete 8.1 mpi bravo package I can pick up at a deal, might forget the center console idea and convert her back to an I/O.
It would be a lot cheaper than 18K and no motors |
Bigfluke just beat me to buying that modified 25. It was in Sandwich, Ma if I recall correctly and was run by a commercial guy. I remember him telling me the same thing...up to 25mph is was spot on but then required attention. He also reiterated that he kept the forward fish box full of ice and catch.
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well the 8.1 didn't last long enough for me to even go look at it, I do have a bravo transom assy and a buddy has a bravo III duo prop hes selling, Might put a 5.7 with the BIII in it, any one running a BIII in a 25?
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Buy it if it is sweet. |
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A 383 stroker motor might be even better. Not a high rpm motor but neither is the outdrive, and it'd be significantly lighter than a big block!
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The new Gen V Marine LS series L86 motor is aluminum, weighs less than a 383 and has more power. It has 6.2L displacement - Volvo is offering it at 420 or 430 HP and Kodiak is also offering it. I think even with the FWC it is something like 150# less than a 5.7 or 383. Problem is that it probably isn't as cheap as a 383.:o
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that would be nice but the $ would be the issue, I could build My own 383 stroker for a lot less . I have a mercruiser 5.7 vortec roller motor with a blown head gask. wouldn't take much to build it
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FWC with Good Aluminum heads and aluminum exhaust & intake manifolds would take a lot of weight out of a 383. Losing 150 lbs back there and improving how the engine breathes could work out really well.
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