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captbone 03-18-2017 09:25 PM

Single 150hp on 23ft Seacraft CC
 
I remember reading years ago a guy in Europe had a single 115hp on a 23 Seacraft that ran well with a light load.

The more that I read about the great results with the L4 150hp-200hp, the more I keep looking forward to seeing some numbers with a single 150hp/200hp L4 on a 23 Seacraft.

I expect 38mph right out of the box.

wattaway2 03-18-2017 10:44 PM

I have a 23cc with double engine bracket and one 200 evinrude still working with it but was able to turn 6000 and gps read 40 mph with a Omc 19" pitch prop surprised me.

Bigshrimpin 03-18-2017 10:49 PM

I'll let you know for sure in 2 weeks (Mercury 150 four stroke)

I ran a 175 powerhead for the last 5 years.

McGillicuddy 03-18-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wattaway2 (Post 250239)
I have a 23cc with double engine bracket and one 200 evinrude still working with it but was able to turn 6000 and gps read 40 mph with a Omc 19" pitch prop surprised me.

Is that with the other motor still hanging back there?

McGillicuddy 03-18-2017 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin (Post 250240)
I'll let you know for sure in 2 weeks (Mercury 150 four stroke)

I ran a 175 powerhead for the last 5 years.

Time to quit polluting Big, Scott Pruitt will take care of that for us:eek: look forward to hearing your numbers. Are you bracketed on the 23'?

captbone 03-18-2017 11:42 PM

Lol. I was hoping to tempt you out Big. Cant wait for the results.

wattaway2 03-19-2017 12:00 AM

Lol no just the one got a deal on the bracket and wanted the extra flotation. So far happy with the combination

wattaway2 03-19-2017 12:13 AM

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Bigshrimpin 03-19-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by captbone (Post 250243)
Lol. I was hoping to tempt you out Big. Cant wait for the results.

CB - It's going to snow again today. I talked with the sailfish reps last weekend at the New England Saltwater Fishing Show. They had a 220 with a Merc 150 (15P rev4) on display at the show. All three guys had logged hours on the exact setup. They claimed it would touch 40mph light with 1/2 tank of fuel and 2 guys.

Gillie - No bracket . . . The boat stills has a notched 25" transom. Hoping for a double helping navy gravy to make up for the looming cuts :( this is gonna be ugly.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...5239.sized.jpg

captbone 03-19-2017 06:29 PM

Beautiful rig. I think with the right set up it will be an ideal rig.

I would rather have 150hp with ideal set up vs 300hp not dialed in.

SailorChlud 03-19-2017 06:40 PM

Hey, Big: Is that photo taken at the ramp at Ashumet pond off Sandwich Rd in Falmouth? Looks familiar.

DonV 03-19-2017 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by captbone (Post 250257)
Beautiful rig. I think with the right set up it will be an ideal rig.

I would rather have 150hp with ideal set up vs 300hp not dialed in.


Shoot, if I had the money I'd rather have 300hp dialed in as an ideal set up!! The issue is the part about money. :)

Bigshrimpin 03-19-2017 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SailorChlud (Post 250258)
Hey, Big: Is that photo taken at the ramp at Ashumet pond off Sandwich Rd in Falmouth? Looks familiar.

SailorC - It's Tempest Knob in Wareham about 2 miles from my house.

SailorChlud 03-19-2017 09:28 PM

Wow - they look almost identical. My brother in law lives about 2 miles from that pond I mentioned in Falmouth. Nice rig.

Capt Chuck 03-20-2017 11:52 AM

CAREFUL, Depending on your load and sea conditions, you'll be shifting your passengers to the bow cap to stay on plane !:eek:

McGillicuddy 03-20-2017 12:15 PM

Nice looking combo, Tim.
How do you like the Tundra. Happy with towing and stopping power? Fuel burn?
:cool:

Bigshrimpin 03-20-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Chuck (Post 250273)
CAREFUL, Depending on your load and sea conditions, you'll be shifting your passengers to the bow cap to stay on plane !:eek:


Capt'n chuck . . . I figure I'd solve the problem with a bow cooler full of them F'ck fish you like to catch :)

Bigshrimpin 03-20-2017 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by McGillicuddy (Post 250274)
Nice looking combo, Tim.
How do you like the Tundra. Happy with towing and stopping power? Fuel burn?
:cool:

Gillie - Tundra is good. Plenty of power. Stopping could be a bit better. Turning radius on the double cab is not good. I do love that the read window rolls down, so I can see out the back during the morning and night time boat launching.

Capt Chuck 03-20-2017 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin (Post 250275)
Capt'n chuck . . . I figure I'd solve the problem with a bow cooler full of them F'ck fish you like to catch :)

I have not fished in so long, I can't wait to hit the water with you and snag up dem f'n fish :(

Ed 03-20-2017 09:59 PM

BigShrimpin-

Good luck with the repower. If you decide to bag the Mercury and want to consider a Suzuki or a Yamaha, let me know. We are dealers for both now.

Bigshrimpin 03-20-2017 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed (Post 250285)
BigShrimpin-

Good luck with the repower. If you decide to bag the Mercury and want to consider a Suzuki or a Yamaha, let me know. We are dealers for both now.

Thanks Ed! If I have buyers remorse then I'll definitely give you a shout.

bgreene 03-23-2017 04:57 AM

How about a nice " boat show special " 23' with 60 hp outboard ? :)

Bigshrimpin 03-23-2017 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 250359)
How about a nice " boat show special " 23' with 60 hp outboard ? :)

BG - 10days until I can stop guessing.

220 sailfish is essentially the same hull as the 23 seacraft - 18inches

Their Sailfish 220 4450lbs rigged weight is approx 200 - 500lbs more than my 23 (depending on gear) .

Data Point #1

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sa...ly-rigged.html

Videos
https://vimeo.com/114727883
https://vimeo.com/167204991


Data Point #2

http://sailfishboats.com/wp-content/...F10032013Z.pdf

Data Point #3

New England Saltwater Fishing Show - 3 sailfish Reps knew I already had a 23 seacraft and was just asking about the 150 Performance on the 220.

DonV 03-23-2017 05:56 PM

I just have to tell.....one of the best "tourist things" I've done in a couple of years was going up in the Montauk lighthouse, not so much doing the lighthouse thing, but because the very attractive and well built girl in front of me going up the spiral stairs was wearing the shortest baggy shorts with the best t-back I've ever seen. I don't really remember too much about the lighthouse, just the view going to the top. :)

Bigshrimpin 03-23-2017 08:11 PM

Don - The nice part about getting old is that we're invisible to those young ladies : ) Just don't stare too long. It's also funny how our memory still works perfectly for certain things.

77SceptreOB 03-23-2017 11:26 PM

I'm sorry guys but I'm having a real hard time believing all this chat about a 150 HP four stroke being a good Idea on a 23' SeaCraft. Being an original owner of a 23' SeaCraft for 40 years (next month) and having run 200 HP and 225 HP, I can't imaging dropping down to 150 HP. Now if these new 150's (rated) are pumping out near 200 HP (which I seriously doubt) then maybe, just maybe it would be an okay recommendation. And to top it off, I've been running 2 strokes to boot....more low end torque, better power to weight ratio, etc. I never like to say "never" but I'm going to have to personally run one of these 150 hp 23' rigs in some ocean slop, loaded down to be a "believer". Just my $.02, fire away...

caper 03-24-2017 10:17 AM

Have to agree - 150 is not enough - I've got a 300 etec on mine up from a 250 OX66 and I'd like a bit more. 225 seems the minimum to me.

DonV 03-24-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by caper (Post 250395)
Have to agree - 150 is not enough - I've got a 300 etec on mine up from a 250 OX66 and I'd like a bit more. 225 seems the minimum to me.

Just gotta ask, how do you like the etec?? If I had the money I'd put a 250HO G2 on mine in a minute!!

Bigshrimpin 03-24-2017 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by caper (Post 250395)
Have to agree - 150 is not enough - I've got a 300 etec on mine up from a 250 OX66 and I'd like a bit more. 225 seems the minimum to me.

I would have agreed, but I ran a 175 powerhead for the last 5 years. 175 May not be for everyones rig, but it worked for me (until I ran it through a sandbar). Based on my own experience and input from merc 150 owners, I took a gamble. We'll see the only downside is buyer's remorse.

175 held 10 - 12, 14 17, 20, 24 mph no problem through Buzzards Bay slop . . . topped out 42/43. Supporting video evidence (both calm days) : )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg7cdv1w1vE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMQVIh-yo2Y


I also ran a 225 3.0L carb Mariner with a Rev4 19P for a few trips. I was shocked by the fuel/oil consumption and sold it. Caper do you recognize the seats? :)

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...00_1.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...m204/225_G.jpg

caper 03-26-2017 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DonV (Post 250398)
Just gotta ask, how do you like the etec?? If I had the money I'd put a 250HO G2 on mine in a minute!!

Like the etec a lot. Would have gone for a G2, but $6K price difference and about a 80 lb. weight difference. Boat tops out at 50 and will hold plane as low as 17 mph. Good fuel mileage and natural cruise about 28 mph.

caper 03-26-2017 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin (Post 250399)
I would have agreed, but I ran a 175 powerhead for the last 5 years. 175 May not be for everyones rig, but it worked for me (until I ran it through a sandbar). Based on my own experience and input from merc 150 owners, I took a gamble. We'll see the only downside is buyer's remorse.

175 held 10 - 12, 14 17, 20, 24 mph no problem through Buzzards Bay slop . . . topped out 42/43. Supporting video evidence (both calm days) : )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg7cdv1w1vE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMQVIh-yo2Y


I also ran a 225 3.0L carb Mariner with a Rev4 19P for a few trips. I was shocked by the fuel/oil consumption and sold it. Caper do you recognize the seats? :)

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...00_1.sized.jpg

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...m204/225_G.jpg

Seats look great - happy you were able to use them. Your boat is nicely outfitted.

captbone 04-07-2017 09:15 PM

Any day now!

Bigshrimpin 04-07-2017 10:10 PM

Snow, Rain and 40+mph wind delay last weekend.
https://www.wunderground.com/history...eqdb.wmo=99999

This weekend is looking promising . . . ; )

caper 04-08-2017 10:40 AM

Been in the water since Feb. 6th - of course I'm in the Keys ! Been stupid windy here for the last week or so and fishing is a bit slow. Boating is great however.

Blackfin26 04-18-2017 09:31 PM

Bigshrimphin, Any updates on how the 23 runs with the Merc 150?

thehermit 04-19-2017 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackfin26 (Post 250835)
Bigshrimphin, Any updates on how the 23 runs with the Merc 150?

yea......any updates?

Bigshrimpin 04-19-2017 12:56 PM

Behind schedule as usual. After I removed the old engine, I noticed the 1 1/2" fuel fill hose needed to be replaced (cracked badly) even though it was replaced with new hose in 2011. The sender gasket was leaking too, so I decide to replace that and broke off 3 or the 5 stainless screws. I drained and yanked the old tank, replaced all the hoses, and fuel filter housing/filter. I also removed the under the console dry storage box to make room for the larger tank. I have a new 110 gallon tank going in today or tomorrow. Somewhere in between I passed the Coast Guard Safety inspection exam for the Federal Fishing Permits. Slight delay.

http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...afteyexam.jpeg

captbone 05-12-2017 11:37 PM

Hung yet?

FLexpat 05-12-2017 11:55 PM

Since the 23 CC was offered in 74 with a single 165 I/O, I'm thinking it will run just fine with a 150 OB.


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