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NoBones 04-12-2017 05:54 PM

New Power
 
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Lil' NoBones (Kenny) has decided to re-power the 1987 23 Sceptre.. :cool:

As some of you may recall he enclosed the transom and added a Hermco
bracket last year. He has been running his 1998 250HP EFI Merc since..

Tired of having a Tanker follow him around the Atlantic Ocean to re-fuel
every 10 hours, put a deposit down on a new 300 HP Suzuki (white one)
from a local Suzuki Dealer in New Smyrna Beach..

What we would like to see is pics from Moose & Snookered and anyone else running a similar configuration on their fly by wire control box mounting. IE: Binnacle or side mount ? The 3.5 X 3.5 gauge mount as well.... What prop is working best.. He is agonizing over the four blade option..:rolleyes:

Need to know what Sea Star adapter plate (Ram 5345) you guys used as well.

He sold the Mercury in one day of advertising it this weekend, after taking the new owner for a 50 MPH boat ride Sunday.. :eek:. So he is like any kid that his baby is dry docked for the next week or two.. HELP.. Dad is on a mission.

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Thanks guys !

gofastsandman 04-12-2017 07:09 PM

Check IM for pricing. Mike is waiting for a call.

DonV 04-12-2017 07:23 PM

Way to go Ken putting pressure on me!! Lil Ken is looking at the same engine I'm thinking of going with, just like Brian, Danny, Eric, Moose, etc. have already done, plus my "cheap bastard" hero JimC is thinking of finally letting go of his original serial #0001 Yamaha two smoker that came over just after the big one.....WWII!!! This Suzuki is on his list!!!!

I know how Lil Ken feels, my 3.0 225 EFI just won't break and it runs like a scalded ape, the only thing it breaks is the bank!!!

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread!

Seeya

kmoose 04-12-2017 08:37 PM

Side binicle is the way to go. The gauge sucks on the original dash if you have electronics in the way. My new helm is being built with a slanted face to accommodate all the stuff I wanted to always see. Depending on how light he is the 3 blade 16x18.5 Zuke prop is about as good as it gets but that all may change with the Hermco mount.

Snookerd 04-12-2017 08:43 PM

Df 300
 
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He should get the 18.5 stock 3 blade and have a beer and worry about North Korea!:eek: Briguy has the 20 with a bracket and because of the SF Console making the balance so far back, he still is at 5950. I'm barely getting 6000 with the 18.5. Kenny would get the Sweet spot with the 30 setback and clean water!

Snookerd 04-12-2017 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kmoose (Post 250733)
My new helm is being built with a slanted face to accommodate all the stuff I wanted to always see.

My wheel and gauges are on the modified - slanted face. A lot easier to see stuff. I like my binnacle dash mounted.

77SceptreOB 04-12-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DonV (Post 250730)
....plus my "cheap bastard" hero JimC is thinking of finally letting go of his original serial #0001 Yamaha two smoker that came over just after the big one.....WWII!!! This Suzuki is on his list!!!!

Seeya

I actually placed a call to Mike at IM earlier today...LOL! Waiting on his response.

kmoose 04-13-2017 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Snookerd (Post 250736)
My wheel and gauges are on the modified - slanted face. A lot easier to see stuff. I like my binnacle dash mounted.

I don't mind the binnacle mount but I use a helm chair and am back further from the helm and keep my electronics on the dash closest to me. It is amazing how much difference in ride it is being back a foot more from the front of the boat. I am also tall and ducking under the windshield has caused some bumps and bruises that have been negated by moving controls back. If Ken Jr. is standing up most of the time and not running big electronics the dash mount works but for me and Mel the side (bass boat) binnacle is a perfect fit as we sit in the thrown with our feet on the footrest.

From this pic you can see how far back I am and why I dash mount would be difficult. It comes down to what style and configuration of electronics Ken is using. His runs may not be as long as ours on the west coast so he may stand the whole time he is running.

kmoose 04-13-2017 09:55 AM

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A pic of my dash layout. As you can see there is little view of the original instrument panel.

Snookerd 04-13-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kmoose (Post 250745)
I don't mind the binnacle mount but I use a helm chair and am back further from the helm and keep my electronics on the dash closest to me.

Yep, that's the way it would work if I were sitting. Sitting, side binnacle. Standing, dash binnacle.

Eric B 04-13-2017 11:33 AM

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Mine is on top too but I sit in a helm chair. Really never thought about the side

Snookerd 04-13-2017 12:17 PM

My seat is too far back to sit without the side controls. Eric-That is a solid benefit of having your seat closer forward! I guess the trade-off is that it a bit softer ride farther back.

NoBones 06-20-2017 10:31 PM

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My shop has been mayhem for the last week.....
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kmoose 06-21-2017 07:11 AM

Woo Hoo! In a few days we will have two Hermco bracketed Tsunamis with DF300 power.

I wish we both had the same bracket though as mine is the double set up for a 30 inch single. We still should be able to compare notes on propping which will help a lot. I'm going to start with a stock 20' 3 blade. It may be a little much but considering the weight lost in the rebuild I might be in range.

gofastsandman 06-21-2017 08:43 PM

I`m not jealous much... at all.
I`m not really.
Just wrenched a grand of parts in my weenie mo truck and a new paint job.
Paid off for 9 years now.
Zero revolving debt...
Hmmm.
Duo prop 350...vs twin `97 rude 150`s.
I know the twins will draw less and be more stable on a skinny girl,
but I`m jealous.

They look great gang and the economy thanks you as does our green orb
of water enjoyment we call home!

NoBones 06-25-2017 07:25 PM

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OK Moose, the race is on ......

Today's progress!
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NoBones 06-30-2017 08:42 AM

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Getting closer with the facelift...:cool:

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Snookerd 06-30-2017 02:44 PM

Looking Good
 
25" motor on that bracket looks great. The embossed, hologram ID Card is currently being minted:D.

NoBones 07-03-2017 08:44 PM

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Junior did partial break-in run today...:D
50 miles of 3000 rpm and less 10 gallons burned ! :eek:

At 3000 RPM was at 26.8 knots.

He is a very happy camper.

Tomorrow rest of break-in and WOT time. :)

Also whats up with Suzuki, they do not have a flush muff for these engines..... humm, I'm on it !

More to follow.

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DonV 07-04-2017 09:28 AM

Very sweet!!! 27 knots at 3k, WOW!

oh yeah.....The flag at the end of the driveway is looking good!! :)

bzeiher 07-04-2017 03:37 PM

what is the red boat in the background? Looks like an old seacraft 27.

gofastsandman 07-04-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bzeiher (Post 252375)
what is the red boat in the background? Looks like an old seacraft 27.

Yep.

Lil Kenny`s future diesel express...

77SceptreOB 07-04-2017 11:48 PM

Great plan!

uncleboo 07-05-2017 07:04 AM

Looks kinda cool with the flying bridge removed.

kmoose 07-05-2017 08:55 AM

Ken, how high is the cav plate above the actual bottom of the transom? Also, what prop is Kenny running? Sounds like a 16x20"

NoBones 07-05-2017 11:03 AM

Ken here ya go.. 5.75 from plate to bottom of hull.
3x16x18.5R Suzuki prop

He did not make it out yesterday for the last leg of the break-in.
Shooting for Friday.

There were 6 people on board for the first run.
Kenny made several trips up and down the ditch (ICW) New Smyrna to Daytona then punched out of Ponce Inlet to run up the beach 12 miles to the Main Street Pier and 12 miles back.
So far the break in numbers as far as I'm concerned are about as good as it gets !!

I plan to see if my mathematical equation where we hung the motor holds up at WOT on Friday.

If it does not blow out with a moderate trim out, mission accomplished. ;)

kmoose 07-05-2017 01:53 PM

That is awesome intel Ken! That is right about where mine is at. Remember, the motor will "unleash" it's lean burn function after the 50 hour break in alarm is reset after the first oil change. Cruise economy will instantly jump up at least .5 per nautical mile.

ericallen01 07-06-2017 09:52 AM

What a beautiful setup. Any pros/cons between the 25" motor + bracket vs. the 30" setup for Suzuki owners?


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