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DonV 02-16-2018 09:44 AM

New Mercury
 
I see Mercury has a new V-6 outboard. Me and my nephew are flying down to Miami tomorrow to the boat show and we'll check it out. Looks like a Yamaha competition, big block (sorta), light (plasma cylinder walls?), new cowling design, etc. Where's the 250 hp?

https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/ca/...Outboard-Motor

flyingfrizzle 02-18-2018 11:35 AM

Defiantly got the weight down. Curious to how well they will hold up. If anything like the 150's they will be good outboards. Seems like everybody is doing the custom color deal now which is cool. I am curious about the 250-up hp class. I don't see the v-rods going no where but you never know. Im sure they will be next down the pipe line.

Bigshrimpin 02-20-2018 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingfrizzle (Post 256358)
Defiantly got the weight down. Curious to how well they will hold up. If anything like the 150's they will be good outboards. Seems like everybody is doing the custom color deal now which is cool. I am curious about the 250-up hp class. I don't see the v-rods going no where but you never know. Im sure they will be next down the pipe line.

This new release is supposedly only "step 1" of the new releases in 2018 (quote from 3:19 in the video) . I wouldn't be surprised if they can bolt a supercharger to this 3.4L block.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM5LymrRRpY

Snookerd 02-20-2018 08:35 PM

Mercury just hit a line drive home run in the middle of centerfield! The weight and power with a v6. The price is great too. Twins (175s) on a Sceptre?

DonV 02-20-2018 09:12 PM

Yepper, those 4 cylinder 200 hp Yamaha/Zukes versus a V-6? I'd have to look real hard at the Mercury. Mercury had a HUGE display at the Miami show and I must admit those new V-6's looked sweet.

I visited the Mercury display just after I "floated" through the Marine7 display, which was SICK!, and after coming down to Earth Mercury did a top notch job promoting their products!! I'm with Snookerd, these new engines will do well....IF Mercury gets serious with their factory warranty. Hard to beat Evinrude's 10 year.

kmoose 02-20-2018 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Snookerd (Post 256423)
Mercury just hit a line drive home run in the middle of centerfield! The weight and power with a v6. The price is great too. Twins (175s) on a Sceptre?

Still right at 1000lbs for the set and 725 lbs for the same ponies in a DF350.

Yamaha stung me back in 2004 with the f225 when I paid $$$ over the f200 and only got a sticker out the deal being output was only 206 hp. Mercury is going to have to be more forthcoming with specifications to sell me on them as a home run at this point. The fact they are touting weights of the 20” model says something. Don’t get me wrong as they all do it but after researching weight graphs on the Merc site they are comparing their lightest model 20” motor against the heaviest contender models. I dislike smoke and mirrors right out of gate. Merc didn’t do that with the L4 150 which would be my overwhelming choice over any brand in that power class. Time will tell but the ball ain’t over the fence yet.

Bigshrimpin 02-20-2018 09:52 PM

I agree moose . . . that bugs me to no end. Merc's been doing it for a while too with the "lightest weight" in small print. I would love to see how the new 225 does pushing a 23 :)

Snookerd 02-20-2018 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kmoose (Post 256425)
Still right at 1000lbs for the set and 725 lbs for the same ponies in a DF350......Time will tell but the ball ain’t over the fence yet.

An American company laying the wood...c’mon, isn’t it time to rally around Mercury? It’s miraculous to have a 3.4 block with 2 extra cylinders for less weight than the smaller displacement Zuke inline 4 200, even when using the 25” leg!

I’ve owned a 23SF with 900 lbs of twin Mercury 225’s. It was an Armstrong, not a hermco bracket, and it was manageable up to about 62. That 1000lbs of motors does more appropriately belong on a 27 SC (the new Mercury 225s). No Bones 27? Time will tell, as you know. WE, the boating public, are the REAL testers for new motors! Like the new Mercury 150’s strong reputation....That’s when the home run is announced. Play ball....

bmajvi 02-21-2018 10:47 AM

Any word on what the new 225 is going to li$t for?

Snookerd 02-21-2018 11:45 AM

Pulled from THT- "25” 175 with DTS would be $13,600 MSRP for the engine. For round numbers: Single engine DTS rigging kit, $1500, wiring harness $200, SS propeller $700, SmartCraft SC1000 tach with junction box $400, so you’re at $16,400 plus labor and tax. A hydraulic steering kit will run you about $1500, power steering kit about $2000."

Can't find the 225 price.

Bigshrimpin 02-21-2018 07:54 PM

You can use mechanical controls and keep the price way down.

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Originally Posted by sundancekid (Post 11129623)
Go for a ride and you’ll change your mind, the performance, efficiency, and overall feel is incredible. Nothing in that horse power class even comes close. They are quieter than a Verado around the dock and incredible smooth thanks to the naturally balanced 64 degree V6 block.

They will be available in May, price is extremely competitive with a sale price of $14,900 for a 225 mechanical for starters.

The profile is such that it takes up less splash well/transom space than the Opti, and both L4/L6 Verados when trimmed all the way out. Not sure where it rates on competitive models at this point.



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Originally Posted by RiptideCharters (Post 11129410)
MSRP on the 225XL in Black with DTS is $17,650. Warranty is 3+2 same as the other Mercs.

Just ordered mine an hour ago.


Bigshrimpin 02-21-2018 08:03 PM

FWIW - MSRP for the 2017 150hp is $13,790 and there are places that sell the engine alone for under 10k.

Where I bought mine.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercury-150...hZ-NQu&vxp=mtr


$4,000 below msrp would make the 225 a very attractive deal.

Snookerd 02-21-2018 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin (Post 256436)
$4,000 below msrp would make the 225 a very attractive deal.

Heck yes!

Bigshrimpin 03-09-2018 12:32 PM

Quotes from my Merc dealer.

Mechanical shift:
new 225XL would cost you 15,399 plus tax for the engine only
new 225XXL would cost you 15,592.50 plus tax for the engine only.

Bigshrimpin 04-04-2018 09:29 AM

Eds marine superstore just put out pricing on the new mercs.
http://www.edsmarinesuperstore.com/-...-table-mercury

14,600 for 225 EFI mechanical

DonV 04-04-2018 10:06 AM

Thanks Big! If I had known Merc had these 4S models coming out at that price point....and assuming the mechanical would "bolt up" to my old Merc controls I would have considered this big time. Especially if they also had the 250 hp available.

Bigshrimpin 04-04-2018 10:09 AM

Don - I'm right with you. I love my 150, but if I had known the new engines were right around the corner I might have waited.

Quote:*
175L EFI 4S MERCURY$12,600
175XL EFI 4S MERCURY$12,800
200L EFI 4S MERCURY$13,300*
200XL EFI 4S MERCURY$13,500
200CXL EFI 4S MERCURY$13,800
225L EFI 4S MERCURY$14,400
225XL EFI 4S MERCURY$14,600
225CXL EFI 4S MERCURY$15,000
225XXL EFI 4S MERCURY$14,800

bmajvi 04-05-2018 09:07 AM

Hmmm, that is pretty tempting! No Merc dealer on St. Croix, but I know a guy there who's Merc certified. What prop do think would make sense on a 23' Sceptre Big?


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