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Is this motor mounted too low?
Mercury 200EFI on a 23 Sceptre. Does this look like the motor is too low?
https://media.fotki.com/2v2JLrFunxu2B8k.jpg Picture was taken at cruise speed. I can't tell if I simply did not trim up enough or the motor is indeed too low. Performance is acceptable, but I feel it can be slightly better (2-3MPH). With a relatively light load (2 people, 3/4 tank), max speed is 40mph at around 5300 (need to double check). Prop is a Mercury Mirage Plus. |
I think so! I had my 225 EFI on the next to last hole, you look to be on the top hole. I then went to a 6" manual jack plate and raised it even higher. In your pic you can not even see the AV plate! The good news is it's easy to raise.
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The plate should be between an inch above or below the bottom of the boat..
Put a straight edge with a jack to the bottom keel (IE: 2 X 4 etc.....) long enough that you can have the plate level with the straight edge... I run all my motors an inch above with no issues...:cool: |
Agreed, too low. I normally start with the av plate 1" above and move up from there depending on prop, use and normal running conditions. Long as your LU can pick up water it will be happy running high.
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Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. I am chasing an unrelated intermittent problem with the motor and will lift the motor up one or even 2 holes as soon as its running 100%. I will report back with before and after performance numbers.
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Gents, i recently raised the motor up 2 holes and the boat runs better! I saw about 43mph at WOT and holeshot is improved. I did not get a good picture of the cavitation plate but I think I can still come up one hole (to the highest hole).
However, the boat has become very prone to prop blow out in turns. At cruise (about 30mph) with the motor trimmed up fox maximum speed, even in very gentle turns, the prop blows out if I do not trim down ahead of time. Is this typical? |
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Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like I am getting closer to the correct motor height. Next time I am out, I will take a picture of the AV plate and make note of RPM at WOT.
I have seen several recommendations for a Mercury Revolution 4 prop. Anybody have experience with the Rev 4 on a 23 Sceptre? What about a Bravo 1? |
Once I got my secptre 20 up high to the best mounting point for performance I had some blow out in sharp turns as well with a 3 blade mercury vengeance prop. I went from it to a rev-4 and it got way better. The rev-4 is a simi-surface prop and it has the cup to handle the higher mounting height. You can go back down one hole too but then you will be giving up performance. The mercury mirage props have better cupping than most others also and would help if you wanted to stay 3 blade. Just remember a rev-4 19P will RPM like a 3 blade 17P, so if you go to the rev-4 you may want to run one-two pitch sizes up unless you need the extra RPMs to get you up towards your redline of the outboard.
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I ran a Rev4 on my 23 with a 225hp 3.0L Mariner a while ago. The 3.0L was way too thirsty for my taste, so I didn't run it very long. Mid range cruise and low speed operation is great with the rev4. It has a ton of stern lift and almost never blows out. It's not the fastest prop if that's what you are chasing. I think you'd like a 17P enertia (not the GIANT ECO enertia). http://www.wellcraftv20.com/gallery/...00_1.sized.jpg |
Thanks for the feedback gents! The current prop is an Mirage Plus 17p. I am definitely not after top speed, but I do want to maintain the ability to comfortably cruise at around 30mph. think I will try the Rev4 next, but before I do - I will take a better pic of the AV plate at fast cruise and get a good reading on of RPM at WOT. Will report back once I do. Was planning to run the boat tomorrow but the weather is crap, so it will likely be next weekend.
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I had to run the Mirage Plus deeper than the Rev4, enertia, or highfive. If you are blowing out now with the Mirage Plus, I'd try a 17p rev4 and see how it goes without changing the engine height.
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Had a chance to run the boat again. Took a picture of the AV plate at cruise - still looks buried. With 2 people on board and 1/2 tank of gas, WOT is 43MPH at around 5700RPM. The tachometer is being a bit flaky, so I do not have 100% confidence in that number (its always something). I recently bought a used Rev 4 17p to try, but as I was about to put it on, I realized that it interferes with the trim tab, and the tab will need to be clearanced. I did not have the tools with me, so I will try the Rev 4 next time.
http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...pictureid=3074 |
I ran the boat with the 17p Rev 4 on Saturday and its a winner! Improved holeshot, better cruise, does not blow out in turns, and the boat just feels more planted! Lost 2mph on the top end, but I am not concerned. Cruise is 32mph at 4500rpm and the boat/motor seems happy :)
I am sure I can go up one more hole (as high as it will go), but will leave it as-is. Better is the enemy of good. |
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