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Bikecop1 03-17-2019 01:28 PM

Just picked up an early model Seafari 20
 
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Just went and picked up an original 20 Seafari. It’s gonna need a lot of work but not as bad as I thought. I will be needing some help and advice to get this thing water ready. As much as I like the engine box I’m leaning toward enclosing the transom and adding a bracket. It’s a Moseley era model with the chrome Seacraft emblems. The floors feel quite solid everywhere but the starboard side. Here are some pics. Let me know what you think.

Bikecop1 03-17-2019 01:30 PM

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More pics.

Bikecop1 03-17-2019 01:33 PM

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And some more.

Vezo, Part II 03-17-2019 02:38 PM

Nice find! Good luck!

flyingfrizzle 03-19-2019 07:20 AM

Diamond in the ruff...;)

cdavisdb 03-19-2019 06:39 PM

Pretty rough, but so much potential. I dived out of a early 70's Seafari, way offshore, for years, fabulous boat. CG is important. Look up Bushwackers posts on what he had to do after adding a bracket. Its doable, but tricky.

JUST JOHN 03-20-2019 11:22 AM

Saw this posted on the FB page. Nice score! What year?

Pretty impressing that the pop-out windshield still functions as it's intended. I don't recall them ever being used or moved on my '77, and I'm afraid all the plastic bits are brittle as hell... It's on my to-do list however! I'm jealous!

Bikecop1 03-20-2019 12:10 PM

Cant figure out the year. All I have is the serial number. They guy I got it from said 85 but I knew that was wrong. I think it is a 69. It has the double cabin doors and the bow rail has 4 posts on each side just like the brochures. I think 70 and later went to three posts then two on each side. I wish there was a way to track the serial number.

SailorChlud 03-20-2019 04:39 PM

Great project - best of luck. Keep us in the loop on the refit - we don't see many Seafaris brought back from the dead!

jtharmo 03-20-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bikecop1 (Post 262507)
Cant figure out the year. All I have is the serial number. They guy I got it from said 85 but I knew that was wrong. I think it is a 69. It has the double cabin doors and the bow rail has 4 posts on each side just like the brochures. I think 70 and later went to three posts then two on each side. I wish there was a way to track the serial number.


What s/n do you have? My 1972 Seafari is #2268. There has been speculation in earlier threads that Seafari s/n’s may have started around 2000 or 2100 based on annual build volume and a few early boats with good ID plates.

Bikecop1 03-20-2019 06:37 PM

2046 is my number . Luckily they put the decal inside the cabin and it has survived.

kmoose 03-20-2019 07:35 PM

Very nice indeed. It will be worth the effort to get her all fixed up.

jtharmo 03-20-2019 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bikecop1 (Post 262518)
2046 is my number . Luckily they put the decal inside the cabin and it has survived.

222 s/n’s between yours and mine. Per the literature section, 398 Seafari’s were built in total through 1972. I’d bet it’s a 68-69.

Vezo, Part II 03-20-2019 10:52 PM

Cool Stuff! I love my Seafari! And have the “1976 Blank Canvas” almost on her trailer, and ready for sale. Also preparing to list parts removed from my 1979 Master Angler. And getting ready to list my 1977 Seafari/2014. Slimming down to the 1979 20 Master Angler, on an Owens and Sons Trailer, dual torsion axle, and dual axle stainless steel brakes.

Vezo, Part II

Bikecop1 03-29-2019 04:26 PM

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Got my new capacity and serial number plate in. Great job Terry. Also polished up the original emblems from the boat. Still in pretty good condition. Definitely an inland boat.

Islandtrader 03-30-2019 08:56 AM

Bleach and a good pressure wash and you will be good to go...Nice find!

Bikecop1 04-10-2019 09:27 AM

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Anyone know what this part is? Dont have the boat close right now to inspect. It is on the port side.

otterhound 04-10-2019 10:20 AM

Transducer for depth sounder/fish finder. The fairing block that it sits looks like it needs some help though. Nice boat and best of luck with it!
Rod

Bikecop1 04-17-2019 03:21 PM

So in doing research I'm finding that my vintage toilet used a pickup for water on the starboard side and a discharge on the port side, sooo i guess Ill be removing the toilet when i get to it. Is that the way these operated? Dont think the DNR will appreciate that.

flyingfrizzle 04-18-2019 07:24 AM

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So in doing research I'm finding that my vintage toilet used a pickup for water on the starboard side and a discharge on the port side, sooo i guess Ill be removing the toilet when i get to it. Is that the way these operated? Dont think the DNR will appreciate that.



Even though it is not "environmentally friendly" I was told once that you are grandfathered in with what you have unless you change it out. Weather or not it is true im not sure.

Bikecop1 04-18-2019 07:51 AM

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I looked it up. No dice.
The Discharge Of Waste
All boats, including houseboats and floating cabins, equipped with a marine toilet must have a waste-water holding system to prevent the discharge of waste products into surrounding waters.

A marine toilet is considered to be any equipment for installation onboard a boat which is designed to receive, retain, treat or discharge sewage and any process to treat such sewage. A "porta-pottie" is not considered to be a marine toilet. This figure shows a typical marine sanitation device:

Image of a typical marine sanitation device

It is illegal for a boat to pump out sewage from a waste-water holding system or from a portable toilet or marine sanitation device into surrounding waters, except into an approved pump-out facility or into a sewer system located on dry land.

All boats equipped with a marine toilet must be registered with the Georgia Department of Natural Resources. You will be issued a Marine Toilet Certificate decal which must be affixed to the hull adjacent to the boats registration number. The one-time certification fee is $5.00. No renewal of the certificate is required and it is transferable to any subsequent owner of the boat.

Bikecop1 04-23-2019 11:47 AM

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Doing a little stuff to the Seafari as I go along. The teak doors survived quite well. I have sanded and in the process of removing the screen and replacing it with new screen. The cabin hatches were plywood and some had rotted from sitting in the water so I have remade with African Mahogany. Baby steps.

uncleboo 04-23-2019 11:52 AM

She's gonna be beautiful!

JUST JOHN 05-23-2019 01:24 PM

:D:D
http://e.lvme.me/3e4gmyp.jpg

Bikecop1 06-09-2019 08:38 PM

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Finally got a chance to spend some time with the Seafari today. Sadly will need a new transom. Looks like if I remove the cap on the rear I will have some room without having to cut into any of the interior rear wall. Will probably add some knee braces to the stringers for strength.

flyingfrizzle 06-10-2019 07:18 AM

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Finally got a chance to spend some time with the Seafari today. Sadly will need a new transom. Looks like if I remove the cap on the rear I will have some room without having to cut into any of the interior rear wall. Will probably add some knee braces to the stringers for strength.

The Moesly models are easier to get to the transom from the inside than the latter hulls with the rear seating. A lot less cutting and also an easier refit.

Bikecop1 06-23-2019 02:31 PM

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Father’s Day gift for the boat. Of course I had to add some decals.

Bikecop1 07-13-2019 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SSPBill (Post 262525)
222 s/n’s between yours and mine. Per the literature section, 398 Seafari’s were built in total through 1972. I’d bet it’s a 68-69.


Just found another Seafari for sale. Owner says it’s a 1970. Serial number is 2042, four before mine. Waiting to see if he has any of the original paperwork with a production date.

deerhunter 07-15-2019 02:03 PM

you should buy mine. its a 71 I think. still in decent shape and I do get out with it a few times a year. just can't justify keeping it for the little time I get to use it. if interested just post and I will check back. heres a pichttps://i.postimg.cc/6QjvBhHK/001.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/wMJycY9x/002.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Px0vw5sF/003.jpg

Bikecop1 02-11-2020 01:35 PM

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Looking thru old posts on the site I came across a bowrider with back to back seats. Has anyone considered doing the back to back seating in a Seafari? Mine is an early model and has no seating in the rear on either side of the engine box. I found one manufacturer that can custom make the base any height so I wouldn't be stuck with a standard 10 in base. Seats flip up and have storage underneath. Thinking out loud and would love to hear your thoughts on those of you that have owned and used the seafari. Thanks

jtharmo 02-11-2020 06:53 PM

Bigshrimpin looked at this Seafari I was considering as a replacement for my yellow one. It had a back to back seat opposite the helm. He did nice job documented the boat in the post linked below. I did not see the boat first hand but I always thought this seat might be too low to see over the bulkhead. But I do think its a good idea if you can keep passengers out of the transom seats and closer to the cg. I have a galley seat now that I will unfold and use more as a bench seat at times. I even slept on in once.

http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...8&postcount=39

Bikecop1 02-11-2020 09:37 PM

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Awesome. Thanks for directing me to the post. With mine not having any transom seats this may be what fits the bill for me an my family. I want to keep the engine box and keep the sides open for fishing. The engine boa will be storage as well as under the seats. If I have the bases made with a 15 to 18 height that will give good height and storage.

Bikecop1 02-17-2020 08:59 PM

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Pulled some of the parts off the boat today. Thought a lot of these were marinium from the early generation boats. Mine are originally made in Japan. Anyone else seen this on theirs?

NoBones 02-17-2020 09:24 PM

Hinges NO !!
Rod holders, Do not think so......
With that being said, do not let that slow you down !
Forge ahead..:cool:

Capt Terry 02-18-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JUST JOHN (Post 262506)
Saw this posted on the FB page. Nice score! What year?

Pretty impressing that the pop-out windshield still functions as it's intended. I don't recall them ever being used or moved on my '77, and I'm afraid all the plastic bits are brittle as hell... It's on my to-do list however! I'm jealous!

John- guess in Long Island must not get warm enough to use the tilt out windshield. In Fla and SC I use it more often than not. Also great on anchor with Bimini up, to grab the breeze. Hope you can get it working.

Capt Terry 02-18-2020 08:33 PM

Marinium hardware
 
Can’t look at them right now. Pretty sure my marinium hardware has a WC on them for Wilcox Crittendon. Guess they could have outsourced the casting to China, but would doubt it in that era. About 20 years ago was reviewing China casting dimensional results for parts for industrial gas turbines. They weren’t very good! But would be good enough for rod holders

SailorChlud 02-21-2020 01:09 PM

I thought about back to back seating on mine, but decided to keep the pedestals and the rear seats, and just use a cooler for a 5th seat if necessary. Give it a try with the higher base and let us know how it works out!

Bikecop1 03-02-2020 07:42 PM

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Finished up my cabin doors today. Now I just need to start on the transom and floor. If I bring home any more boat projects I may have to sleep in it. At least the doors are nice. Not bad for the original 50 year old teak. Even replaced the screen material.

uncleboo 03-03-2020 08:04 AM

Nice job! Amazing how resilient teak is.

SailorChlud 03-06-2020 06:10 PM

Looks good. Do you have privacy inserts for those doors - in case a lady needs to use the loo?


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