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fishingproblem 09-25-2019 08:22 PM

Looking for Love in all the wrong places, SO CAL
 
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Not many Seacraft boats on the left coast and the few I have looked at are in need of seemingly major work. Today I finally looked at one that has been in my sights for awhile and it had some curious features. First of all the ID plate has been compromised and there was no visible SN. It is listed as a 21' however I walked it off at closer to 19'. Is it a SF20'?

There are holes below the water line one forward starboard side below the fish box and two aft serving as deck drains outlets. There is the standard drain located center bottom on the transom and then one more drain hole port side below the water line. At the risk of seeming ignorant of marine engineering is it effective or safe to have a deck drain going straight down?

Capt Chuck 09-25-2019 09:07 PM

That picture is not a
VDH Seacraft

fishingproblem 09-25-2019 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Chuck (Post 265484)
That picture is not a
VDH Seacraft

Say what Chuck!? Here is another picture of transom.

Is it not even a Seacraft?

erebus 09-25-2019 10:06 PM

Sure looks like a classic SF20 to me.

NoBones 09-25-2019 10:24 PM

Ugh NO, the ass looks OK, the bow NO !!
Something wrong on the keel.....

The keels on a VDH do not have a lip on the cutting edge .....
The spray rail as well..

If it is a SeaCraft someone "presidential engineered" the structural
integrity of the bow....... :confused:

erebus 09-26-2019 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 265487)
The keels on a VDH do not have a lip on the cutting edge .....
The spray rail as well..

I see what you mean. Does look odd in the photo.
I chalked it up to an optical delusion.
:confused:

flyingfrizzle 09-26-2019 08:25 AM

Looking at the rest of the boats features it sure looks like a late 60's Sf to me. Maybe a 69ish model. It dose look a little strange in the front the way the Pic was took or the angle it was took from. The shape of the keel may of just been from where some one reworked the bottom after it got rubbed or wore badly. The way they taped off the bottom paint makes the strakes look strange but that looks just to be an illusion from the odd tape angles. I do know the bow rider chines are slightly different up front than the ones on the latter sf models. The rest of the boat just looks to close for it to be a copy of a SC hull. I just think some one did some rework on it changing the appearance.

DonV 09-26-2019 10:25 AM

Just got in from raising my engine up a hole and what do I see on the old CSC forum, built in spray rails that look to be about 1 1/2" or so. Sure not on my 23'er and I don't remember seeing those before on a 20'er. Plus Looks like the bow entry is rather square versus the SC which is a bit sharper, optical delusion?, need more pics. Strange.......

fishingproblem 09-26-2019 01:15 PM

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I went back this morning and took what I hope are better pictures.

Thanks for everyone's perspective and insights.

David

Capt Chuck 09-26-2019 08:19 PM

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Well, that first picture posted Spooked me a bit. It doesn't appear to be a Potter hull but someone tweaked the spray rail as Ken said. What does your title say?
Here's a Potter Hull pic with the bow lifting strake.

NoBones 09-26-2019 09:51 PM

OK, your good..
Someone added the spray rails (glassed in) and beefed up the
keel with a skid on it...

They threw a coat of bottom paint on, so be weary of what lurks
underneath of it..

It is a genuine SeaCraft !

strick 09-26-2019 11:10 PM

Agree that its most likely a late 60's era model. they used those metal placards till late 72 I believe? after that they started stamping the Vin on the transom...I think thats the boat that has been for sale for quite a while down there...advertised as mostly a fresh water boat?

To answer your question about the below the deck drains..well they worked really well till they didn't..thats how they were built with the cockpit deck drains going strait down...there are stories of those failing and you can guess the rest of the story...most of the restores you see will have the deck drains re routed out the transom.. Good luck in your search as there are few Seacrafts here in Calif...there was a 20 sf on face book 6 months or so ago...up here in N. Calif....I went to look at it but walked away as it was in really rough shape...I would say be prepared to drive some distance for the right boat...I know of two seacraft enthusiasts (or dummies however you think about it) that recently drove half way across the country to trade boats...

strick

fishingproblem 09-26-2019 11:22 PM

HI Strick, Did Strick and BS do the deal? Did you look at the 20 SC CC that was north of you last year for 1700? If it had a road worthy trailer I was going to make the 8 hour drive but it sold. The pictures made the hull look new.

Thanks to all that helped confirm its SC origin.

Beaver 09-28-2019 09:25 AM

I looked at this boat yesterday. There are several patches on the bottom that may be a concern. Like someone said, the bottom paint may be covering more. It also looks like a good amount of trailer rash.

strick 09-28-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fishingproblem (Post 265512)
HI Strick, Did Strick and BS do the deal? Did you look at the 20 SC CC that was north of you last year for 1700? If it had a road worthy trailer I was going to make the 8 hour drive but it sold. The pictures made the hull look new.

Thanks to all that helped confirm its SC origin.

Yea BS and I did a trade...the boat north of me had some issues I was not wanting to undertake not to to mention the trailer was a disaster and the area it was in was in the middle of the gold country with very steep windy hair pin turn roads etc...so where I usually leave with a seacraft this time I left a seacraft lol..

strick

SailorChlud 10-16-2019 10:49 AM

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For comparison, here are a couple of photos of an unmolested bow on a 1972 hull:

Fr. Frank 10-17-2019 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 265510)
OK, your good..
Someone added the spray rails (glassed in) and beefed up the
keel with a skid on it...

They threw a coat of bottom paint on, so be weary of what lurks
underneath of it..

It is a genuine SeaCraft !

My first SeaCraft was an early Seafari that also had a glassed-on spray rail, very much like in the photos. My uncle did that to stop my aunt from complaining so much when they went running down Lake Worth in a chop. As I found out after a mishap, they were actually 3/8" quarter-round molding pieces glassed over with some light cloth, faired very nicely and then gel-coated, running about 2/3 of the way back from the bow.
Just didn't take well to hitting a floating 4x4 at about 25 kts.

Bigshrimpin 10-19-2019 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by strick (Post 265511)
I know of two seacraft enthusiasts (or dummies however you think about it) that recently drove half way across the country to trade boats...

strick

I still can't believe that happened ;)

Bigshrimpin 10-19-2019 11:40 PM

This looks like a nice old 4 stringer CA 20.

fishingproblem 10-22-2019 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin (Post 265707)
This looks like a nice old 4 stringer CA 20.

Prey tell what is a CA?

I certainly like the idea of 4 stringers.


Thank you.
David

strick 10-23-2019 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fishingproblem (Post 265729)
Prey tell what is a CA?

I certainly like the idea of 4 stringers.


The boat you posted is an older 4 stringer model most likely.. what happened with that bow rider btw? did anyone get a phone number? very tempting

strick

gofastsandman 10-24-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin (Post 265706)
I still can't believe that happened ;)

Who held the golden spike and who had the hammer?

Well done.

uncleboo 10-25-2019 06:46 AM

So did you buy it? Tyvek suit?

fishingproblem 10-25-2019 03:38 PM

Uncleboo, I did not buy it for a couple of reasons. It seems a bit of a mystery boat and too much of a project for me at this time so no Tyvek suit for me yet.

Strick, I have the number for the guy that was selling the bowrider so PM me if you if you so desire and I will dig it up for you. The bottom was very rough so a flip would be a certain necessity and the trailer was a POS.


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