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kmoose 06-14-2020 10:01 PM

Loving Your SeaCraft When the Poop Hits the Fan!
 
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NOAA and several other forecasts models dropped the ball on the Florida Gulf side keeping the Coasties very busy last Saturday. With predictions of 2’ seas and 10 Knot winds decreasing in the afternoon many boats set out early to take advantage of the short Red Snapper season.....me included. A front that was predicted to show late Saturday night with 15 knot winds showed up at 9 AM with a screaming vengeance and 30 knot winds kicking the seas up offshore to a very tight 6’+.

I was 35 nautical SW of Cedar Key when it hit. I’ve been in the shit before but this time the speed at which it built was beyond worrisome. At it’s worst the only option to maintain a safe headway was to put the bow right into the head sea as coming broadside to the stacked sea would have risked dipping the gunwale and taking on more water than I could shed before the next wave hit. I can tell you with all certainty that I am glad during my rebuild I glassed the cap to the hull, raised the deck and installed 4” long side scuppers and a locking deck hatch. They were all tested and performed as expected.

This pic is one of several that cleared the windshield and sent every loose item to the stern as well as lifting the outboard completely out of the water as we tipped down the back side. Fortunately we were able to make 5-7 knots into it heading straight back to port with the auto pilot holding like a rock but it was a long “exciting” ride I will not soon forget.

I have always loved my SeaCraft but nothing solidifies it more than getting stuck in the shit and safely handling it when many other boats didn’t that day.

DonV 06-15-2020 07:36 AM

Well done Ken!! Making it home safely is all that matters!! :) Not too sure about that NOAA crap, went out about 20 miles dolphin fishing Saturday with 2' or less seas predicted, after the second washdown over the port side of the boat with 4 - 6'ers it was time to head north to home! Too old for that!!

bumpdraft 06-15-2020 01:53 PM

Red Snapper mini season over here on east coast usually coincides with rough seas. I'm starting to think there is something up with that.
We went out last Wednesday, 25 miles (Dolphin fishing)out with predicted 2' seas. It was calm and slick as a lake out there. I was up and running on way home when we encountered a three foot wave, which was actually a wake from a large yacht up on plane. I didn't slow down and was going to go straight through it like I usually do with wakes. When I got close, I had second thoughts and turned, as this was no ordinary wake. Big mistake and kinda got slammed going over it. Old fart here too.

77SceptreOB 06-15-2020 03:31 PM

I think having a Sceptre in those conditions would be a benefit. The foredeck and windshields would help deflect most the green water to the sides when the bow gets stuffed into one of those 6-8'er.

kmoose 06-15-2020 03:38 PM

The thing that got us was the 3 second interval. Lots of reports coming in on THT. A Glacier Bay cat got swamped on the grounds and rolled 20 nautical off Suwannee and a 30’ Donzi cracked its hull swamping the motors and was towed in as well.

Capt Chuck 06-15-2020 09:33 PM

Hey Moose
Hope all is well. Didn't you stretch your hull a few feet?
I remember those west coast close chop head seas. No fun. You feel you'll never get there....
I bet you lit up a good Camacho triple when you hit land.

kmoose 06-16-2020 07:22 AM

Chuck, the plan was to stretch her 3-4 feet but it just didn't work out at the time. We did move the windshield header and dash back almost 2' which gave me more bow in front of the helm which has helped tremendously and made the cabin sleepable for two.

I had to wait until we finished the drag back to the house where a proper pitcher of strong Margaritas and a Oliva Anniversary Reserve Torpedo put me back in my happy place.

strick 06-16-2020 10:20 PM

Over here I'm lucky to have a Macanudo...glad you made it back safe...

strick

DonV 06-17-2020 07:16 AM

"Oliva Anniversary Reserve Torpedo".....damn, kinda makes a Cohiba sound wimpy!!! :)

gofastsandman 06-17-2020 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kmoose (Post 268156)
The thing that got us was the 3 second interval. Lots of reports coming in on THT. A Glacier Bay cat got swamped on the grounds and rolled 20 nautical off Suwannee and a 30’ Donzi cracked its hull swamping the motors and was towed in as well.

3 seconds? 30 Kts?

I have always hated tiny scuppers. Are shoppers afraid of large scuppers?

Capt. Bill Taylor of Black Dog fame asked me to compare magicseweed.com
to NOAA. I've been using MSW for years now and find them to be far more accurate.

Brian and Jesse wanted to fish the day the Tampa football players got in trouble.
I checked the forecasts. Magic seaweed was the only site that predicted the storm
coming through here around 10:30. I said we can go early and fish the reef if we stay
close to the inlet. We ended up not going and I learned a few things after the news.

I got a drift sock and PLB. I became a safer boater after that sad news.

The ocean is a harsh judge.

Cheers,
GFS

cdavisdb 06-18-2020 07:06 AM

Nice pic!! And given than the conditions are always much worse than the pics make it appear, I'm glad I wasn't out there!!

kmoose 06-19-2020 01:25 PM

Leaving in a few hours to head back out again. Last weekend was a good reminder of how capable our boats are but they are still small boats in today's world. Hopefully it will be the pond out there they are forecasting.

bgreene 06-23-2020 11:48 AM

Any video from that " adventure" ? Guessing too busy at the helm but asking anyway.

Glad it all worked out safely.

deerfly 06-23-2020 01:59 PM

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lol, NOAA has been off the mark quite a bit lately. I was out 53 miles in my buddies 26' crevalle (more of a bay boat on steroids) that morning along with four other guests. At around 35 miles I told him I don't care what the forecast says about laying down later, I don't like anything about what I'm seeing in any direction. We need a plan B or abort, continuing on to our 80-ish mile plan A destination was suicide in my opinion.

After some discussion he says its only another 15 miles to some plan B numbers. I didn't like that either, but as we neared that location the winds did drop around 9:30am and it appeared the captain had the first laugh on the forecast lull. We've seen this before out there on other trips too, so I couldn't make a compelling argument. About 45 minutes later though someone turned on the fan and it got real shitty real fast with no signs of getting better. A water spout trying to form about 100yds east of us was sobering indicator of things to come.

Our route back took us directly into the seas so we had to jog northward toward cedar key to angle over the waves instead of punching through them, which would have doomed us almost immediately. South towards hudson area was a hellacious storm brewing, so that direction was out of the question. At the time everyone onboard thought it was 8-10 out there, but I didn't think it was much above 6'. The problem was the short wave interval with the white caps on top and that was brutal, especially on a boat with very little freeboard on the bow. Needless to say it was very dicey for the first couple hours while making very little headway. The hydraulic steering alarm went off a few times as we started in to keep it interesting too, Neptune has no sense of humor...

My buddy ended up getting a little sick after the first hour and had to sit back at the stern with the others while I took over the helm for the next couple hours. We were taking on water constantly and getting smashed in the face with spray every 30 seconds or so. I had my InReach armed and secured to my waist. For a while there I really thought we would end up needing to be rescued. It totally sucked but we made it....

The 105 mile tampa buoy stat's told the story perfectly

kmoose 06-25-2020 10:25 AM

But yet last weekend there were pontoons and flats boats out 40 nautical out of Cedar Key. Red Snapper fever..... So much to do over a fish that doesn't eat that great but any ham and egger can catch them and make instagram posts.

kmoose 06-25-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 268225)
Any video from that " adventure" ? Guessing too busy at the helm but asking anyway.

Glad it all worked out safely.

Yes I do but I am no longer posting up videos due the the crazy crap going on in this world as I may have said something offensive during the time videos were shot. Such is our world today.

gofastsandman 06-25-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kmoose (Post 268255)
Yes I do but I am no longer posting up videos due the the crazy crap going on in this world as I may have said something offensive during the time videos were shot. Such is our world today.

Bones and I were talking about MaCraes this fall.

deerfly 06-25-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kmoose (Post 268254)
But yet last weekend there were pontoons and flats boats out 40 nautical out of Cedar Key. Red Snapper fever..... So much to do over a fish that doesn't eat that great but any ham and egger can catch them and make instagram posts.

yup, I'll take scamp or even mangroves all day over AR's. It is crazy what goes on during these snap-shot seasons. Its also amazing there aren't more catastrophes way out there in the gulf. I can only imagine most of these people have not had their mettle tested far out at sea yet or they'd be a lot less intrepid about going out there in in BBQ boats.

I would add that most are lucky too that a limit of scallops can generally be had within a mile or so offshore or there would be a lot more horror stories during that season too.

I try to avoid being on the water during most holidays and especially scallop season. I'll be changing trailer hubs and bearings over the 4th...

kmoose 06-25-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gofastsandman (Post 268256)
Bones and I were talking about MaCraes this fall.

Fall is fine if we get it before the fronts start rolling in. If we were talking right now, I'd rather slam my reproductive organ in a car door.

NoBones 06-25-2020 08:09 PM

Dang Moose, sounds like you are throwing in the towel ?

Every 4ft LED light in my shop has a "noose pull chain"
Safe bet Bubba will not be coming to Area 442 !!

gofastsandman 06-25-2020 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kmoose (Post 268261)
Fall is fine if we get it before the fronts start rolling in. If we were talking right now, I'd rather slam my reproductive organ in a car door.

Why do you hate your car?

Pick a weekend.

The rest takes care of shh.
Over and out.
gfs

Snookerd 06-26-2020 08:15 AM

Ken-Thanks for sharing what you went through....I think a lot about the kids who perished in their 18SC out the Jupiter inlet. That was my entire families stomping grounds. We were not in a SC back then.....I went through a tropical storm as a 4 yr old leaving West End in a 24 ft Morgan sailboat. That was an ugly experience. Stories save lives. We need a a Fall gathering on the West Coast. Let’s do this!!

kmoose 06-26-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 268264)
Dang Moose, sounds like you are throwing in the towel ?

Every 4ft LED light in my shop has a "noose pull chain"
Safe bet Bubba will not be coming to Area 442 !!

Right now means dealing with the endless masses and stupidity of the scallop fleet. My tolerance for crowded ramps, no parking and people not qualified to operate a truck inner tube are flying a 35' go fasts. It's no place I want to relax. Right now in the middle of red snapper insanity you have to be at the ramp at 4 am and that doesn't even guarantee you a parking spot.

For the next 2.5 to 3 months Homersassa is going to be the epicenter of dumbass.

dirtwheelsfl 06-26-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 268264)
Dang Moose, sounds like you are throwing in the towel ?

Every 4ft LED light in my shop has a "noose pull chain"
Safe bet Bubba will not be coming to Area 442 !!

Have you heard the latest? They discovered a bunch of KKK hoods by the water cooler in his garage!!







After a lengthy investigation, it turns out it was just the white paper cone cups

bumpdraft 06-26-2020 04:59 PM

Moose, your post reminded me of the day I bought my 23. March 1993, the no name storm that pounded the upper west coast and big bend, but it caused a big wind event on the east coast too. The boat came with no trailer and even though I was in the intracoastal
the whole time, it was a long , 40 plus mile shakedown cruise from the Hobe sound area.

gofastsandman 06-26-2020 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kmoose (Post 268270)
Right now means dealing with the endless masses and stupidity of the scallop fleet. My tolerance for crowded ramps, no parking and people not qualified to operate a truck inner tube are flying a 35' go fasts. It's no place I want to relax. Right now in the middle of red snapper insanity you have to be at the ramp at 4 am and that doesn't even guarantee you a parking spot.

For the next 2.5 to 3 months Homersassa is going to be the epicenter of dumbass.

We have always had a great time there.

Stay away from new shiny boats and jet ski riders.

Vezo, Part II 06-27-2020 08:24 AM

Ken, bring Mel and the 23 to Hernando Beach. Launch Friday and haul out Monday. The new dock is now 20’ and empty. I’m here until I sell the Seafari.

Vezo


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