Side vs Rear Scuppers
 

I've been planning to do side scuppers with rubber flaps however I'm starting to second guess that plan. Does anyone have plus and minuses regarding the topic. The disadvantage of transom scuppers is loss of bilge space and more work to route through bilge area.

I've raised my decks ~2" so I think I'll have plenty of height for side scuppers, however I've never been on a smaller boat with them and don't often see smaller boats with them.

The red ellipse is the approximate location of the scupper

These are the scupper covers I have.

I liked how "Kmoose" did his out the side. Very efficient. Search for his build.

Alright I'm stumped. I have searched for Kmoose's build that is referenced above but can't seem to find it. If I look at all posts by Kmoose it gives me 20 pages worth but doesn't go back as far as his build. Does anyone have a link or a clue how to find his build?

Thanks.

Kmoose side scuppers

http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...ad.php?t=27757

Kmoose if you see this would you do side suppers again?

So no one has a strong preference one way or the other??

I like side.. IF theyre high enough above waterline

Kinda tricky to explain and I'm not sure if it's factory installed. On my 23 there is a "pocket" 3" x 3" about 1" below the deck where the water collects and then goes about 2" down through a 3/4" pvc 90 and then out he back. If I went out the side using the pocket as the lowest spot I would gain about 2" to maybe 3". I'd do like Ken, out the side with a clamshell to keep water out when running. With 3/4 to full fuel and the new heavier engine the pvc drain out the transom is now always below the water.

I have them on my Egret 189...just round thru holes...work great ...way above the water line...I have some large plugs in my emergency kit just in case I ever need them and doubt I will..if I were to do them on a seacraft...I’d copy what Dirt has done.

Strick

What is the likelihood of water coming in the side scuppers when drifting or anchored and wind pushes you broadside to the waves? Would the flaps stop the waves from pushing water in?

Thanks for the info. I'll proceed with the side scupps.

I have NO experience with side scuppers, but, I wonder why majority of open fisherman type boats don't have them? What are you trying to accomplish by self bailing out the side vs the transom? I would be concerned that if you did not have deck gutters that drained to the suppers that you would run the risk of water ponding against the fantail. I would reconsider your layout.
Just my 2 cents.

Sorry guys, I've been busy with getting the new shop going.

Absolutely YES. There is no way I would go back to transom scuppers. I will get a pic tonight of the final set up that has proven to work in the worst conditions. I can't believe how fast they clear the deck of water an fish parts.

I will also advise against the flaps as they hinder the free flow of water out. A shield is far superior as long as you have your decks high enough.

If you get a chance a pic would be great.

Sorry, I promise to get you some pics.

Found some. The clam shell covers the front third as a deflector.

Thanks for the pics. I may start with the clam shells and keep the rubber flappers incase I want more protection.

Side vs Rear Scuppers
 

I am Liking the idea of the side scuppers but I have a few questions/concerns about how they are set up. Are you still using the the original deck drains with a 90 degree elbow out to the side? I won't be using the liner but would it be better to use a floor drain with a tube to the hull or just have the scupper drain directly from the deck?

Straight off the deck. No plumbing. Like Kmoose said, even fish parts go out.

I'm thinking something like this (with a clam shell on the outside). Simple and clean.

That's what you want but I would have them near the corner. Also, size is critical and they don't need to be as big as you would think. Get the smallest clam shell and work from there. Also, understand my deck has been raised and my deck is sealed. Even so, 3 adults can stand on one side in the back with no water coming in.

I will also note that I water tested my location first with the boat loaded before I cut them. You need a solid 4" above the waterline with the boat fully loaded and level.

Thanks Kmoose, that cleared up all of my questions and concerns. Gotta love this site!

Put these in a bertram, 1.5 x6". Covers are about to go on... I like round ones so u can plug em though.

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Nice covers Dirt! I should have commissioned you to build some covers for mine. Nobody out there makes any like that or that nice.

Dirt, How did you attach those? Also what is the point of doing a large pill shaped opening if the flow is restricted to a small opening at the rear of the clam cover? I was planning to do the pill shape but maybe I'll do the round like your boat.

They arent on there yet, i will just epoxy em on. Theyll only cover about 2/3 of the opening so will still flow plenty. They just keep water from coming in when in forward and pitching side to side. Reverse kinda SOL...

I like round so i can plug em