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bigeasy1 06-08-2007 01:16 PM

Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
I came across the following post on another site,and was slightly angered by it,especially the part about it not being the best for trolling.It was a reply to a question about the seaworthyness of the Seacrafts hull design.I pasted his post below.

Any Opinions ?



Sea Craft

Without a doubt they are a very good rideing boat in a chop and have a loyal following the issue of water through the transom cutout can be resolved. the one thing you dont want to do in a seacraft is get caught broadside in a breaking sea, even a moderate one. Its never a good situation in any boat but many step v and shallow deadrise hulls will slide on the face of the wave and it will push you ahead of the break. a Seacraft because of its bottom configuration will hang in the wave and get rolled up in it. It happens faster than it takes to talk about it. For running off shore and going in or out through a break they are a great boat but if you are going to spend a lot of time trolling or plugging around on the bars I'd consider another boat.

Trayder 06-08-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
The only craft I want to get caught up in on a BREAKING sea large enough to cause what this person is stating is a surfboard, but thats just me.

JohnB 06-08-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
I think if you take the basic 23, with a single 200-225, which is what they were designed for, with no t-top, or a small to med top, they roll a little, but not dangerous.

If you put a monster top on one with a 4' radar array, put a crows nest/lookout up there, and put a huge floatation bracket with a couple big horses on the back, I think it sits lower in the the water than the original intent, and both the center of gravity, and balance are off. I don't know if I would call it unsafe, but maybe unstable, they do roll around. When Moseley designed these, whether by luck, or design, he really hit on something.

I do alot of "power drifting" bottom fishin, and more often than not, my stern is pointed south, and the wind/wave is from the east, so I am taking these sideways. The boat does rock, and I have had a few that leaned it pretty hard.

NoBones 06-08-2007 04:23 PM

Re: Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
Quote:

The only craft I want to get caught up in on a BREAKING sea large enough to cause what this person is stating is a surfboard, but thats just me.

Some how I just can't picture that :o
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/krn54/trayder.jpg
See ya, Ken

1bayouboy 06-08-2007 04:44 PM

Re: Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
As much as these boats are valued for going offshore fishing...I think if it was a real problem there'd be seacrafts washing up on all the beaches. I think a wave big enough to do that would be at least the boat width tall,
and if you're not under power in 8 foot seas..... [img]/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]...

What about all those 24 degree deadrise offshore CCs.....
I don't think they'd fair any better in those conditions and I don't see them washing up on all the ebaches either.

BigLew 06-08-2007 05:17 PM

Re: Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
Kinda my thought as well!

Let me see if I've got this right. Trolling a 23' boat in an 8' or so BREAKING beam sea and I am supposed to blame whatever happens on the design of the boat!

Nevermind that the boat in question has probably the SAFEST hull going for working out of those type of conditions, albeit some course other than continuing take the BREAKING 8 footers on the abeam.

I think whoever originally thought to write those comments is NOT someone in whom I would put a lot of confidence in for their advice on such matters!!!!! Other than that, he is probably a great guy to share a beach with and dream of knowing what the the rest of us do. ;) ;)

BigLew 06-08-2007 09:27 PM

Re: Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
Please accept my apolgises, but my "after thught" is that I'm reminded of something I once heard; "There's no fixing STUPID!"

NoBones 06-08-2007 10:21 PM

Re: Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
Look at it this way guys, those who condemn what they do not have always find fault, with what they really want, but cannot have!!!!
He might be a nice guy to those around him, but to me he is an uneducated jerk!!!

By all rights, the places I have gone an been with my old 20SF, I should be dead, but still here to irritate
the uninformed.......
Ken

Fishjack 06-09-2007 01:01 AM

Re: Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
Quote:

the one thing you don't want to do in a seacraft is get caught broadside in a breaking sea, even a moderate one. Its never a good situation in any boat but many step v and shallow dead-rise hulls will slide on the face of the wave and it will push you ahead of the break. a Sea craft because of its bottom configuration will hang in the wave and get rolled up in it

Do WHAT? The one thing you don't want to do in an XYZ boat is get caught in a hurricane (like Katrina) - I heard that your boat may not hold up and might sink with the head seas while still attached to the trailer...

Bigshrimpin 06-09-2007 01:56 AM

Re: Fact or fiction, anothers Seacraft opinion.
 
Who is drifting sideways in overhead breaking surf??? my boat always drifts azz into the wind or current and tracks beautifully in following seas (and huge overhead surf). My old boat . . . wellcraft v20 always drifted sideways with the current (great for fishing 4 rods).


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