Helms 23CC & 23 Cuddy -23SC Copy??
 

It looks like these guys are the first boat co. working on a copy of the Sceptre. The 21 diesel looks interesting too. They are just drawings of the 23's for now, so who knows. Here is the link helms web site

Re: Helms 23CC & 23 Cuddy -23SC Copy??
 

I was searching for the picture of the bracketed helms 21 with a 200 suzuki for the last post on twin 115 fichts on a 20MA . . . but it's no longer on helms sight. That combo was seriously stern heavy.

Re: Helms 23CC & 23 Cuddy -23SC Copy??
 

Big-Your right, that bracketed 21 with the 200 Zuke was way stern heavy. Did you notice the cap is like a SF in the bow and graduated to a MA height in the stern? It looks like the stern gunnel height before the cap could be less as well.

Re: Helms 23CC & 23 Cuddy -23SC Copy??
 

I called Helms to get an idea of price on a few of his models. He quoted me around $50K for the 130hp Diesel 21(42mph top end), and around 35K for the 21 with a 140/150 Zuke. He said the 23 with a single 250 Zuke will be around $50K.