[jongolds]

Crap, that's not good news. Sinkcraft is a new one for me, don't remember seeing that in the ad. Anyway, I don't think they seemed bad when I checked them out in November but I guess we'll see once I get the tarp off in the spring now that I have a better idea what I'm looking for.

What are these vortex contraptions that Fellowship invented. Are they bought or built? I'm picturing kind of a flat pastic hose that opens when water is poured in the open end from the deck but, I can't picture anyway to do something like that with available materials.