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Originally Posted by kmoose
We could go all day on tit for tat... building codes, bridges, planes,.... pic your topic. Bottom line PLDs are already mandated for documented and commercial vessels regardless of size so there is no big stretch or unreasonable expense to apply that to recreational vessels venturing offshore past state waters. It's reasonable, applicable and you won't find a seasoned mariner that has spent any amount of time offshore denying their value.
I read an interview with a SARs team Coastie stating that EBIRBs and type 3 pfds with strobes provide the best chance you will sleep in your own bed if faced with an maritime emergency. There is a lot of weight in that statement and it should bare consideration to those owning vessels capable of venturing beyond the last channel marker.
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The point of going tit for tat is that while my example is proven and the PLD is proven, people believe one isn't ridiculous while the other they believe is. To me that means that this reaction isn't really about taking life saving measures, it's about feel good measures, which also inadvertently mandate a purchase of a product and chip just a little more freedom away from the populous.
Think of it this way, You see a girl at the bar and you offer her $1,000,000 for a BJ. She says yeah, but then you tell her you don't have the mil, you only have $5. She gets all offended.
You already know where her morals are at the $1,000,000 offer, past that you are just negotiating the price. Same goes here and with every other topic of giving the government more power/authority.
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Originally Posted by Trayder
Also just for the record, I would not be against the mandate by any means, I have had an EPIRB or equiv for well over 20 years along with a few PLB's, never leave the dock with them, on my boat or others. I am just not for more govt regulations on items that should be common sense. As for reducing search and rescue, sure, but much like everything else there will always be folks that do not adhere to govt rules and will need help regardless. all of this seems like a knee jerk reaction to the recent events, which suck (the events not the knee jerk)
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As I said before if it's because the two are 14yo, say it was two 34yo men, would we really be having a multi page thread on here? Would we really be demanding PLDs on all boats?
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Originally Posted by bumpdraft
What size boat would be considered, or would it just be if you are caught offshore. I sometimes see people in jon boats out further than 3 miles.
The op implied that the devices should be made affordable and required. My point about that is, affordable and required is not how things work out.
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Preciously, it's easy to jump to an over the top mandate without going into the details about it. When you get in the weeds of how to apply that mandate, punishments for breaking that mandate, who will monitor the mandate, how will they monitor it, who will be governed by that mandate, how exceptions are given out, why those exceptions are given out. It turns complicated fast, just like everything else the government touches.