FINALY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ltdan]

THE SEARCH IS OVER,,,,,, I'VE GOT A 1983 23'SUPERFISHERMAN CC. SITTING IN THE DRIVEWAY!! YOU MIGHT SAY SANTA CAME JUST A LITTLE EARLY. AS Y'ALL MIGHT KNOW, A LITTLE MICH LIGHT WOULD BE CALLED FOR, BUT I'M GOING TO TO GO FOR A LITTLE KENTUCKEY SOUR MASH INSTEAD! BOURBON FOR THOSE OF YOU WHOM ARE NOT FAMILIAR, WITH A COUPLE OF ICE CUBE'S, NATURALLY.
IT'S THE ONE THAT SKEETER'S MARINE HAS HAD FOR A WHILE. THEY FINALLY TOOK AN OFFER I HAD MADE, WITHOUT THE MOTOR, BRACKET, AND RIGGING. THE PICTURE'S MAKE THE BOAT LOOK BETTER THAN WHAT IT REALLY IS, BUT IT'S NOT AS BAD AS A LOT THAT I'VE LOOKED AT....... UH OH, THE ICE IN MY GLASS NEED'S COMPANY,,,, DO YA THINK IT'S TO LATE TO ASK FOR A YAM 250HPDI FOR CHRISTMAS???? AND AN ARMSTRONG BRACKET????? HMMMMMMM
LT DAN

[John R]

All right LT! Let us know how the work goes on the new ride [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[ScottM]

LT - congratulations on the purchase. Rigging that boat with a flotation bracket will be the way to go to get the ass end up a bit. I wish Santa was delivering one of those 250 HPDI's to my house this year. Maybe in a year or two.

[ocuyler]

LD,

From this board, this is the best you're gonna do:



You could make a lifetime of ice cubes from my dock right now!

Merry Christmas,

Otto

[ltdan]

THANK'S GUY'S. I'VE PRETTY MUCH HAD MY MIND MADE UP ON A SINGLE MOTOR,BUT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, YOU CAN RIG WITH SMALLER TWIN'S FOR THE SAME $$$ AS A YAM 250HPDI. I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO ASK,BUT ANY FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE, OR THOUGHT'S ON THE PRO'S AND CON'S OF PERFOMANCE OF EITHER WAY TO RIG WOULD BE A BIG HELP. TOP END IS NOT CRITICAL TO ME, BUT A GOOD HOLE SHOT IS A MUST. I'M USED TO TWIN'S, BUT LIKE THE IDEA/SIMPLICITY OF A SINGLE. RANGE IS NOT AN ISSUE, BUT I REALY DON'T WANT A GAS HOG. HOLY CRAP I SOUND WISH WASHY! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] O.K.,LET'S PRETEND WE ALL HAD 23'S. HOW WOULD YOU POWER IT FOR THE BEST COMBO OF CRUISE, FISH, DIVE,,, IN THAT ORDER, WITH 100 GALLON'S OF FUEL,3 ADULT'S, AND GEAR.
BOUGHT SOME JUMBO STONE CRAB CLAW'S YESTERDAY WHEN I WENT DOWN TO PICK HER UP [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] . JUST POLISHED THEM OFF WITH A LITTLE PINOT GRIGIO RESERVE (WHITE WINE,,HEH,HEH), GOOD STUFF. THANK'S IN ADVANCE FOR ANY INFO.
LT DAN

[timd]

Dan,
If I was gonna add a flotation bracket, like the wide Armstrong, I might go with twin Honda 130's, they would be hard to beat for mileage, reliability, smoothness, etc. The Suzuki 140's might be cheaper, although I don't have any experience with them, others seem to love them.

[ScottM]

LT,
If you're not traveling long distances/offshore, then twins would not be necessary. Weight is a factor - 1 big 2- or 4-stroke weighs less than twin 2- or 4-strokes, plus with a single you have only 1 engine needing potential repairs/maintenance versus 2. Gas consumption should be lower with 1 engine at a comparable cruise speed/boat load. From what I've heard, you're not going to get a great hole shot out of a 4-stroke, either single or twin. Guys I've spoken to say they are slow getting a boat on plane, but their midrange power is excellent. I'm not bashing 4-strokes or twin setups, they are the right choice for certain situations. From what it sounds like, you only need one engine - go with the 250 HPDI.

[Briguy]

My twin little 115hp Suzuki 4 strokes are a SWEET set up. Why? PRICE, only $14,000 rigged with props. RELIABILITY, my local boater's club report the 2 strokes get about 700 hours of use before a major rebuild or blowup. 4 strokes in their club easily obtain 2000 hours. Think about it, if your 4 stroke car averages 45mph over its lifetime of driving, and you can get 150k out of one that would translate to 3333 hours, and we could easily add another 500 hours just sitting in traffic, waiting at a stoplight, parked and making out with the heat on(for you northerners). PERFORMANCE- Remember I have had a 225 johnson, twin yam 130's and now these Suzukis. The suzuki's burn the least fuel, have a top end and cruise only 1mph lower than the 130's, (25.5kts and 38.5kts top now.) I have had not one problem in 200 hours. SPEED, yes I get out of the hole quickly! It literally jumps on plain with ease and I'm turning 14x23" props. My old 225, with any more than 3 people on board was a dog. You can't beat cubic inches. The 250hp HPDI's displace 3.3 liters. I displace 4 liters and will probably match fuel burn, top end, and beat it on price, total hours, hole shot and price AND I DON'T HAVE TO EVER BUY STINKY 2 STROKE OIL. Over a 500 hour period I don't have to buy 71 gallons of oil at $18.00 per gal or $1285.00, besides, we all know 2 stroke oil will leave deposits. When's the last time you "decarbed" the wife's Accord? Argument over!

[Scott]

I was recently on a dive boat ... 25 foot tub that had 12 divers on board....30 tanks ... tons of gear weight belts etc...people and gear alone are easily 3,500lbs !!! and the boat had twin 140 Suzuki’s on it....Well let me tell you ... At idle you could only tell they were running by the telltales …. Then I think the Divemaster thought he was an Indy race car drive....that setup had no problems what so ever with planning... cruise speed you name it.....They put the engines on to conserve fuel as it costs a whole lot more to put fuel in a boat over there then what we have to contend with ... they said this thing now sips fuel instead of guzzling it.....If I were to do twins I think what Briguy has is pretty nice!!!

Twin 130 Hondas (I ran a 20 foot center console with one of them on it) are really nice but even with a float bracket thats alot of weight (about 200 more lbs) not to mention what they want for them $$$$ [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] 1,000 lbs on a bracketed 23 seems to be a lot…well at least to me

If I'm going the single motor route....250 HPDI

[Billybob]

Hmmm - I have been thinking that when I repower I'd go with a 250 Ficht, but it's hard to argue with Briguys logic here.I'm real surprised that the twin 115 4's would get out of the hole faster and get similar top end to the old 225.Good info Bri.Curious though why 115's, why not 130's 0r 140's (whatever Suzuki makes) instead? Weight, Cost ? Would seem that that would put you up into the mid 40's, and I would kinda like the extra speed.