twin 4 strokes

fatalbert · #1 10-04-2002, 04:12 PM

does any one have any experience with twin 130 hondas on a 23? would one even cosider the new honda 200's? Overkill?

Matt1121 · #2 10-04-2002, 04:18 PM

You need to be careful about weight, not just for structural reasons but also for hull balance. Those Honda's are very heavy. I think the 200hp model is about 495lbs....not sure about the 130hp model's weight...I have a brochure at home. I will look tonight.

Craig Mac · #3 10-05-2002, 11:33 AM

Yeah, I'd be interested in hearing others views too. I know Fellow-Ship thinks a single 200+hp is the way to go on a 23 and shared that view a while ago. I have seen some 23s here that look so stern heavy, not only would it make me worry 20 miles offshore, it spoils the look too.

Except, except... my only question would be reliability. I plan to fish mine offshore and I sure would feel more comfortable with 2 motors on the back should one develop problems.

If anyone knows a workable performance/weight distribution/reliability outboard compromise I'd be intrested to hear.

Craig Mac

John R · #4 10-05-2002, 11:40 AM

Guys, a lot of the pics I've seen have shown great improvement with a floatation bracket. Adding 300-400 pounds of additional boyancy on the back will go a long way to cancelling out the effect of the second motor plus allowing a fully enclosed transom. A 23 notch transom with twin 200 regardless of make sits real low in the back.

The Suzuki 140s also weigh 80 pounds less than the Honda 130 (170 less than the 225) that's 160 to 340 POUNDS less than the honda motors.

I'm not trying to push the Suzuki but I know people with the Honda & Suzuki OBs and they are all happy - the Suzi can usually be found cheaper too [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

Briguy · #5 10-05-2002, 02:10 PM

I just spoke with a guy that has a new 23' with twin 225 optimax ob's on an armstrong flotation bracket. He says they are way too heavy. About 575 each with a ss prop. Your weight estimate on the single Honda 200/225 is off. They weigh in just over 600lbs each with a ss prop. My suzuki 115's weigh 416 lbs each. They were on my transom. I would consider the weight slightly too much. This weekend I am installing an armstrong dual flotation bracket. Hopefully this will help keep my stern up. Just the fact that now my transom will be enclosed will give me quite a bit of peace of mind, not to mention about 2 feet of deckspace. I am converting the baitwell to dry storage. I 'll let you know in a few days of the progress and will surely post some progress pix.

Briguy · #6 10-05-2002, 02:11 PM

Buy the way. Why would anyone buy a new Yamaha 225 or Honda 225 4 stroke when you can buy twin 115 or 140 Suzuki's for the same price?

squidrig · #7 10-07-2002, 11:53 AM

Briguy, who did you deal with when purchasing the Suzuki's?

John R · #8 10-07-2002, 02:31 PM

Briguy, how much for rigging parts??

Briguy · #9 10-07-2002, 04:29 PM

If they were to install them figure about 1000.00 per motor. That includes all cables, wires, rigging assembly, throttle, tach and multifunction warning guage.

bmaj319 · #10 10-07-2002, 05:47 PM

Don't forget sales tax too! They might forego paying the governor if it's shipped out of state, but you'll have to pay shipping and insurance. BTW, I got my DF140 for just over $9,500 including tax, installed with all the rigging (gauge, binnacle throttle, cables, etc.), earlier this year from Eastern Yacht Sales in Riviera Beach, FL.