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Old 04-13-2011, 07:26 PM
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(reposted) Mercury is not honoring my warranty.
This time it's High Pressure fuel pump and air pump failure, supposedly caused by ethanol. Yes, my motor is supposed to be under warranty til April 23 of this year (3+2 warranty). But no, Mercury is trying very hard not to pay for these repairs.

I have had my motor repaired under warranty four times previously:
  • once for ethanol damage to sensors in the LPT, resulting in complete fuel system and computer failure. The cost to repair in parts and labor was $6,700, (which is actually more than the $5,700 I paid for the motor when new in '06).
  • once for computer failure, requiring replacement of the PCM: $1,700 in parts and labor.
  • once for PCM-induced coil failures: $2,150 in parts and labor
  • once for alternator failure: $600 parts and labor
Now we have ethanol induced failure of the fuel pump, plus the air pump swallowed a reed-valve when the HP fuel pump quit.

Mercury is now claiming that an "irregularity" with the original purchase paperwork for the motor voids my warranty, and in fact, I never had a valid warranty to begin with, even though they have authorized warranty repair four times previously. The "irregularity" is because I purchased my motor as a new "left-over" from ProLine Boats, who is "not an authorized retailer" of Mercury motors. The original invoice shows that ProLine Boats, inc., transferred the motor to ProLine Marine Services, inc., whose invoice named me on the the block for the address location for the motor to be shipped to, leaving the actual purchaser name block on the sales invoice blank. According to Mercury, this only means I received the motor, not that I purchased it, and I am therefore not entitled to the warranty, even though I have the cancelled check I wrote for the motor.

I have purchased eight new Mercury motors over the past 36 years, totalling over $36,000, from a pair of 25SS racing motors back in the 70's, to a 3.4L in the 80's, and this 90 Opti in '06. I've bought more than 15 used Mercury's, counting those already rigged on boats I've purchased. I've been one of Mercury's best non-commercial customers.

But if Mercury Marine chooses to void my warranty for petty stuff like this, I will never buy another Mercury outboard, new or used, and I will use my influence both in the recreational boating industry and in the church to deter other people from buying Mercury as well.

It is customer service that makes a company. Or breaks it.

I am very unhappy about all of this, can you tell?
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:21 PM
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Sounds like lawyer time
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:02 AM
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OR, you could let them know how many Classic SeaCraft members are reading this and sharing your frustrations! Don't know if you've gone to the top yet, but, sometimes that works. Seems like all the guys from the bottom up to the middle are just doing what they're told. I'd explore sending a long letter , including the conversations here, to the main office. Surely, someone with your background in the marine industry would have a little clout given your experiences. Hope they see the light and take care of you. Good luck!
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:30 AM
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I agree, Martin.

I wrote a letter to Mark Schwabero, who's the President of the Outboard Business Unit. I got an email overnight last night telling me they're "reviewing the decision process" in my case, and that they'll "be in touch with AAA Outboard in Crystal River, (my) designated Mercury Marine Authorized Repair Facility". Yes, they really capitalized all those words in their email. No, they're not going to be "in touch" with me, just my friends at AAA Outboard.

My next step would be to write a letter to Fred Kiekhafer, with whom I worked for a few months 20+ years ago when I was propping boats for Wellcraft (mostly Scarab and Excaliber). Even though Fred's technically just involved in the Racing Division, he's still got a lot of pull around Mercury Marine at the corporate level.

I haven't filed a lawsuit in 16 years, since I sued Walmart and made them put restraining straps on the child seats of all their shopping carts. (In fact, that's the only lawsuit I've ever filed). I hate litigation.

Besides, if I cost them just the sale of a single large or midsize outboard motor, they've already lost more than I could get in a lawsuit here in Florida. And I imagine I could deter more than a few from buying Mercury motors over a short span.

Don't get me wrong, when my 90 Opti is running well, I love the quiteness and efficiency of that motor. It's the customer service with which I'm unhappy. (Although 5 warranty motor failures in less than 5 years and under 150 hours is a bit much).
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Old 04-15-2011, 07:41 AM
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Default UPDATE: Not So Mad at Mercury Marine

Here's the update:

A vice-president type personage at Mercury Marine has got involved now, and said, essentially, "Look, this guy's only got a month left on his warranty, anyway. Just fix the motor, for goodness sake!"

So I'm getting the parts and labor for this repair covered by Mercury, and a letter offering me (in the form of a rebate) 10% off my best negotiated purchase price of any new Mercury outboard, including new leftover 2010 motors, if I purchase from and have it installed by an authorized Mercury outboard retailer, AND if I purchase in the next 3 months.

I guess sometimes you just gotta be the squeaky wheel. I still cannot afford a new motor, though. And if I could, I'd rather rig it myself.
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Old 04-15-2011, 08:58 AM
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Glad it worked out for you.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:05 AM
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Also glad it worked out and your right about the squeaky wheel!!!
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:29 AM
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Wow- five big repairs on an '06 motor- that's an eye opener! Glad you got Merc to honor the warrantee; but the fact that they tried to weasel out of it says alot to me.

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Old 04-18-2011, 09:50 AM
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Wow- five big repairs on an '06 motor- that's an eye opener! Glad you got Merc to honor the warrantee; but the fact that they tried to weasel out of it says alot to me.

Steve
I agree, Steve. It's no longer the Mercury Marine I grew up with, where they would fall all over themselves to make good repairs under warranty, which is a huge part of why I was a die-hard Mercury fan for so long.
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'73 Cobia 18' prototype "Casting Skiff", 70hp Mercury
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:23 AM
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Seems like the issues you were having were mostly related to the "gas" that we have out there.
I would think that Merc and the other manufactures would have worked out most of the issues by now. If not you can imagine the warrenty issuses and expenses that they have due to this.

I can't purchase a new engine so when I can get the newest and best I at least plan to do what can be done to make the engine as safe as possible with the gas problems out there.
I remember way back in the day that the least of was the gas issues
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