27 ft CC ??????

Reel Smoker · #1 09-04-2002, 11:56 PM

Bearfish, a friend of mine has one, though he claims its a 28 .Ill find out exacly what year and what size tomorrow.RS.

hitsgang · #2 09-05-2002, 01:16 AM

I have heard that Seacraft built a 27 ft center console in the 80s. Does anyone have any info on this? How many were built? Quality? Etc?

Rob Beckner · #3 09-10-2002, 09:51 PM

Take a look at www.projectboats.net You will find a 27 flybridge. I took a look at it and it needs major work. GOOG LUCK

Reel Smoker · #4 09-10-2002, 10:09 PM

Bearfish,His is an 1986 27'8 CC. I believe its 10 ft beam,forgot to ask him. This is the only one i've ever seen. I wonder how many were made. RS.

MarkG · #5 09-11-2002, 02:43 PM

I am looking at buying the 27' and converting it to a centre console - I have seen the work done on the other 60's built seacrafts but would appreciate any insight on whether there would prbably be complete stringer damage .

I would intend to fully bracket the boat and redo the transom.

How weak or deteriorated does glass become over time ? What is the perfomance like on the 60's built refurbished boats ? Are the hulls soft or does is it determined by the stringer condition?

I like the webmaster's technique on stringer repair and would try to copy it.

Is it difficult to have a deck portion made and is it a costly process?

If the flybridge is removed - how does it relate to the inner section of the boat? Is the gunwale totally different and does a new one have to be made?

I am comfortable with the console / the transom and the stringers, I am not comfortable with the gunwale question - if this has to be totally re-engineered then it is not worth the trouble.

Any help would be great

Many thanks

Mark Glusing

JohnB · #6 09-12-2002, 02:55 PM

MarkG,
I did a complete retrofit of a 23 foot boat 10 years ago (not a seacraft), and the cost and time was unbelievable (cuddy to CC). I won't bore you with the details, but lets just say I greatly underestimated the scope of the project. I'm sure the process hasn't gotten any cheaper. If that is what you want, and the way you want go, go for it. Restoring a CC back to the original or better condition is one thing, but my guess on that 27 is that it has a hull, liner, and cap. These things where engineered to perform and be sound as design as a unit. Once you start pulling it apart, scrapping the liner and parts of the cap, and put it back together, the final product might not be as good as a 27 CC SeaCraft should be. Not trying to be negative, but from what I see on this site, most restored boats were restored back to their original structural configuration with a couple of upgrades. If it where up to me, I would restore it back to it's original configuration if that was the type of boat I was looking for. If you are looking for a 27 CC, I would probably start with CC, and work from there. There is a major difference in repairing an original design that has gotten weak over time, and completly re-engineering and redesigning something. You might try to find someone that is very familiar with both the 27 CC and this boat that would know the structural and design differences. If I were going to go to 27, I probably would just jump straight to 33' SeaCraft. It's proven to be an great CC boat.
Hope this helps a little.

John R · #7 09-12-2002, 04:30 PM

That boat has been on that site for 8 months now. Run away, don't walk.

Miles Offshore · #8 09-12-2002, 05:26 PM

I agree with the rest, if you want something in that size range you can find 27 Albemarles (gas)pretty cheap (40 and up)(big boats)deisels(a bit more [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] ). Or anything but that piece of ***t!!!! You would spend so much time and money on it that you would never want to look at a boat again!!!

MarkG · #9 09-12-2002, 06:54 PM

Thanks you guys - I have to tell you this forum is one of the most useful I have ever experienced - not only in terms of boating but just information in general.'

I agree and will not buy the one in Florida and have taken the advise with respect to altering the cap / liner etc.

Unfortunately for me - I have my heart dead set on a Seacraft for the westcoast (I almost am better off without a boat considering how much I brag to the the zillion whaler / grady owners out here - I need to prove the Seacraft legend!)

I am now probably going to buy the 20' Sceptre and do some minor conversions to the current control station - instead of completing ripping the two bulk heads out - I will probably convert them into seat / lockers with the center console / Ttop more towards the stern than a classic 20' center console.

The windscreen will be totally removed.

It may prove to be useful to have some cover up front with the existing deck structure considering the weather here - anyone know how far back the deck comes back on the 20' sceptre?

The boat is one of only 2 Seacrafts north of San Fran that I know of - and has been used in fresh water only (which is rare) and was garaged for 4 of the last 5 years.

Thanks again for all your help.
Thanks again for all you help

John R · #10 09-12-2002, 08:38 PM

Mark - wiat and bide your time. You are better off waiting a year if needed. Becuase you are moving between a 20 and a 27 (quite a range) center console or MAKING a center console, they will happen. Earlier this year there was a 20CC and a 23CC for short money in Cali. You are better waiting for the right one to come along than spending a year converting a bad boat...

Believe, I know as I've been on the outside looking in too...