How does the Sceptre shed big water over the bow ?

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Bushwacker

I'm amazed that Potter didn't just keep building the 21 after he bought the company from Moesly, but he was never into racing, so maybe he didn't appreciate what a great sea boat it is. It's also incredibly space efficient . . . try to find another 21' powerboat with 7' bunks in it!

If you built a new one, exactly like Moesly did (with spruce stringers and plywood decks!), you wouldn't have to beat the hell out of it . . .he already did that, running WOT in 8-10' seas for 500 miles! Nothing broke, even when specially built all-out race boats were falling apart all around him! No re-engineering required because he built it right the first time! I'd build it as a dive boat with a big swim platform, which is how Bob used his (shown below), for trips like Connor takes!

Your best bet might be to look for a Seafari 25 like Connor's. There seem to be a lot more of them around than the 21. Strick just sent one to the crusher because he couldn't find a buyer that appreciated what a great boat it is!

For me, the Seafari is perfect for the type of boating I've done lately, like the S. Fla. Circumnavigation trip I took a couple of years ago. http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=69122ef0.pbw If I ever decide to sell this boat I've had for 37 years, it will be to buy one like these folks did for this adventure: http://www.integritycruise.com/

I think I'm in love ! If this pic is of the Mosely 21 - to me it's a great looking boat - bow proud, roomy, old style set up for serious salt water fishing, trolling etc. Must be extremely hard to find one now.......

[cdavisdb]

The seafari 25 has an 8 ft beam and only weighs 200 lb more than the Septre. That's hull weight. It carrys more stuff, so the total weight will be more, but not hugely so. Not sure what a 21 weighs, but its got to be heavier than most 21s.

I trail my 25 long distances with an E250 van. Except when accelerating, you hardly know its back there.

[doodlebug]

I second the teeth jarring chine landing, never remembered it in the 23 cc, but your standing over or sitting in it in the sceptre, my long term plans include a side console under the aft edge of my top to improve that ride and landing. When it's rough I would rather be in the 23 cc than the sceptre for ride but cockpit space you can't beat the sceptre.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by cdavisdb

The seafari 25 has an 8 ft beam and only weighs 200 lb more than the Septre. That's hull weight. It carrys more stuff, so the total weight will be more, but not hugely so. Not sure what a 21 weighs, but its got to be heavier than most 21s.

I trail my 25 long distances with an E250 van. Except when accelerating, you hardly know its back there.

Well then - I need the 25 Seafari and the Mosely 21 !!

[Bushwacker]

Originally Posted by bgreene

I think I'm in love ! If this pic is of the Mosely 21 - to me it's a great looking boat - bow proud, roomy, old style set up for serious salt water fishing, trolling etc. Must be extremely hard to find one now.......

The Moesly 21 in that picture is the "Unohu" that my friend Bob bought at the Miami Boat Show. I've followed him for a couple thousand miles all over the Bahamas, often only a couple of boat lengths off his transom so that deep hull could knock down the seas for my smaller Seafari. Some folks thought it looked sort of ugly with that big high bow, but one ride in it would quickly change their minds!

The weight would be somewhat less than the Sceptre, but probably not more than a couple of hundred pounds. There was a LOT of glass in those boats! You're right, they were pretty scarce, even when new. It is undoubtedly the worlds BIGGEST 21 footer! The first pic below shows the Unohu rafted up at Grand Bahama next to a Formula 233 and my Seafari 20. I helped tow Skip & Carla's ex-race boat down to Key Largo, and it actually towed pretty easily with my 4200 lb V-8 Dakota, but we didn't take the turnpike since the trailer had no brakes. After looking at the last picture below, Carla said I need a bigger truck! The perspective exaggerates the size, but makes for an interesting picture. (That Seafari 20 cap inside the 21 gives you a better idea of it's size!)

[bgreene]

Well, I think it's a great looking hull with that big front end.

Odd this boat didn't survive into current times......if it performs the way you guys report, I believe there's a specific market for this type boat.

[Islandtrader]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Well then - I need the 25 Seafari and the Mosely 21 !!

I will let mine go...make me an offer...Oh yeah the reserve price 50k

[cdavisdb]

Island trader may be crazy(or just kidding, 50K is way too cheap, you ain't see the boat), but you can't have my 25, at any price. They are too hard to find and the 21 isn't big enough for my use.

Connor

[bgreene]

I'll stick with my Wellcraft V21 for now................. with longer term goal a SeaCraft of one edition or other......

I just flat out like that Mosely 21' - the idea of it, the looks, and ..........the reports on how it runs.

WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too many boat's out there that can't stand up to rough going over the long term - hulls that come apart, leaks develop, fitting open up, pound to death, etc etc....

When I want to get from point A to point B on the ocean and it's a typical 2-4' day, being able to RUN head in on a 21 footer would be awesome.

We should have Mosely 21' everywhere - so I could buy a used one at a reasonable price.

[finestkind]

I can't think of how many times i've taken water right over bow of my 20' seafari. I'm out of scorton creek, sandwich ma cape cod and sometime the mouth of the creek gets nasty. i used to have a bimini top connected to the windshield and it was great the water would go right up and over and usually all of it landing behind the transom the rest washing right out the scuppers. i have recently ripped my top so i built a hard top now i get a little more wet, and more water lands in the back of the boat cause the top isn't there to deflect it a little farther. but it still goes right through those waves like a champ. if not used to it ya it may make you nervous but it does it's job and keeps on going hell its a 71 seacraft remember lol and yes the hatch leaks a little when that happens but i could probably seal it better but it doesn't bother me. A little advise though make sure the hatch is locked. One time i made a huge mistake cause it wasn't latched and a wall of water went right through the cabin like a waterfall. But it all still drained out the back eventually. Good luck