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Old 02-10-2006, 10:05 PM
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Ed I think you will end up with a nice peice.I really love wood on a boat.You may want to try several coats of clear AwlGrip after the west system.It lays very even and builds up nicely.My skiff stays out directly in the sun,so I end up having to hit the wood work yearly,but it's just a quick pass with 600 paper and another coat or two of the clear AwlGrip.
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Old 02-13-2006, 03:09 AM
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.I really love wood on a boat.
I agree !!!!

I also think you need some UV protection, Awlspar/Awlbright? like Joey said or a good varnish…I’m not sure that the mirror finish has that??.
Me personally … I would add some color (stain) to the wood to bring out that grain. Don’t need to go super dark just something to give it some "pop".
I’m just not a big fan of “blonde” wood on a boat….but that just me

Watch the gimbals when the rods go into the holders …. They will leave a mark !!! and then more work over the winter. I treally sucks to spend all that time finishing something and have someone drive and a butt into and gouge it !!! It happened to me on the big boat...twice [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Another small project on Trident

Thanks for all the feedback.

Actually, the product I want to use is System 3's...clear coat, not the mirror coat I had previously mentioned. The clear coat does need to be followed up with their UV protected spar varnish which is epoxy compatible.

I have a call into the System 3 rep to find out if there is any compatibility problems with staining the wood before hand.

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Old 02-16-2006, 05:29 PM
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Hi,
I'm pretty new to the board. I was just looking around and found this thread. Last year I built a small plywood boat and coated it with epoxy and then spar varnish. I've also done a lot of research on the web about epoxy and boat building lately. I've learned a lot, mostly stuff not to repeat. Based on my limited experience, I can offer some observations and suggestions. Some of these have already been touched on in previous posts.

1) Epoxy resin is excellent for stabilizing wood that will be exposed to water, both because of its superior bond to the wood and the fact that unlike polyester resin it's impervious to water.

2) But it hates light. It will turn dark and weaken over time if it's not protected with paint or a clear coat with UV inhibitors.

3) It doesn't have much surface tension when in liquid form, so it's difficult to achieve a smooth finish on an application thick enough to protect the wood.

4) It's a bitch to sand. Hard as a rock. Substantially harder than polyester resin.

5) Its much stronger in compression than in tension. In other words, it doesn't hold up to bending loads unless it's reinforced with glass cloth.

Based on all that, I would use the finest glass cloth I could find, 3/4oz to 1.5 oz, on the wood when you coat it with resin. The cloth will ensure a uniform thickness of resin, it will wet out clear, and it will strengthen the epoxy. It will also be fairly easy to sand to a smooth finish. Then I would coat it with a clear two-part polyurethane like Interthane Plus or spar varnish. The varnish will scratch easier and need more maintenance. Here are some links you might find informative:

http://www.oneoceankayaks.com/Epoxresl.htm

http://www.oneoceankayaks.com/Wshophtm/Shop28.htm

This guy did an exposure test on several brands of epoxy resin and the results may help you to decide on who's epoxy you want to use. I think Raka performed best overall.

Good luck with the project.

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