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Old 08-03-2008, 11:59 PM
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The cavitation plate must be measured with it being exactly parallel to the keel. Your photos show negative trim angle. I suspect you will find the cav plate a bit below the keel and neutral trim angle.

The suggestion to raise it one mounting hole at a time is a good one, although I suspect you're going to end up raising it two holes. For an outboard, the ideal trim angle under way is with the cavitation plate perfectly parallel to the direction of travel with the hull at optimum angle of attack, and the rotating propeller blades just barely piercing the surface. Unfortunately, the only hull I've ever seen that ideal achieved with is an Allison XTB.

SO we compromise. Raise the motor, use a sternlifting prop, and play with trim angles.

BTW, a sternlifting prop is one which provides most of it's lift from the inner 1/2 of the diameter of the blade length. That's why progressive-rake 4 blades provide more sternlift than 3, and cleaver blades LOTS more sternlift than chopper or "big ear" props.
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Old 08-04-2008, 01:36 AM
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The negative trim angle look in the picture is probably because the tongue of the trailer is high to accommidate hitching up to the truck. I normally try to keep the top of the motor running flat with the water or a little higher.
Tom Clark in Seattle sent me the following e-mail(s)after looking at the pictures.
That is a Turbo prop made by Precision Propeller (now owned by Yamaha).
Those are great props on smaller boats, usually very fast,
but not a great prop for a high horsepower motor on a pretty big boat.
Looking at the photos, I would recommend raising the motor two holes (1-1/2").
From the Honda propeller catalog I would recommend the OFS 4 Blade
15-1/4" x 16", Honda part number: 58334-ZY3-B16CL
I had a an e-mail from the sales guy at Cap Sante and he wants me to bring him the boat this week and will raise the motor, now I will need to work on the prop issue. I have no idea what the price difference would be on the 2 props. Any ideas? He is off on Mondays, so will contact him on Tuesday after I go salmon fishing in the morning.
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:11 AM
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The OFS4 prop is actually made by PowerTech Props, and is, in my opinion, one of the 2 best props made for SeaCraft hulls. 16" pitch sounds perfect in a 4 blade. It is a heavy stern-lifting prop, very strong blades (not thin), with moderate progressive rake, allowing for a wide range of trim angles. It also happens to be the basis for the prop I ran on my 20' Seafari, although I ordered mine in a custom 3 blade 16.5" P and 15.25" diameter. I had a Merc V6 2.0L on my boat at the time, which was built to produce about 190/200 hp.

The other advice from Tom is about right. You need to get the cavitation plate above the hull bottom so that it doesn't pull the stern down while planing.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: Need ideas to stop porpoising?

1 thing at a time, looks like 2 holes to me also, then get a WOT RPM reading so you can get the correct prop pitch the first time
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Old 08-07-2008, 05:51 PM
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They raised the motor 2 holes for me this morning and we ran it for about 1/2 hr. Did not get any porposing and and was able to get 5950 RPMS(range of WOT 5K-6K) out of it w/2 adults and 90 gal of fuel and the extra 60 lbs of lead in the bow, I just took the lead out as I don't think it will be needed now. I did not check the speed but plenty fast, had to dodge crab pots.
I asked about the 4 blade prop and they were not very eager to go there because of the $500+ cost. I even offered to split the difference on the price increase to swap the prop, but all I got got was no comment or we'll see.
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:10 PM
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Excellent, now get back to fishing!
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:05 AM
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Gosh darn this is one of the best posts as of recent. All awesome, spot on information. What a great community. Kudos to all that posted. Sounds like the dealer is stepping up to the plate. Now, get the lead out!
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:43 PM
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Went fishing yesterday(did not say catching,bad day, 3 dog fish and 3 lingcod,ling cod is closed). The lead is out and the boat preformed great. Now to work on the prop, I was able to run it up to 6000 rpm/44mph/GPS and still just a touch of throttle left. RPM range is 5000-6000 rpm, I am trying to get them to swap out the prop for a 4 blade as suggested above.
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