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Old 07-25-2020, 12:40 PM
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Calling Todd’s Lures! Doesn’t he still have that 27?
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Old 07-27-2020, 08:44 PM
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I had never heard that the 26 Reg Express was a crappy ride...good to know.

Boats that I may look at after next year without kids at home:
27 Blackfin Fisharound
27 SeaCraft
29 Blackfin Flybridge and Combi
35 Contender Side Console
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Old 07-27-2020, 11:02 PM
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I had never heard that the 26 Reg Express was a crappy ride...good to know.

Boats that I may look at after next year without kids at home:
27 Blackfin Fisharound
27 SeaCraft
29 Blackfin Flybridge and Combi
35 Contender Side Console
You are so ruined.
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Old 07-28-2020, 01:33 AM
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I’ll never get rid of this seafari 25. I’d love to get a master angler 27 but I’m sure none in Hawaii. I’m sure I couldn’t afford any of these but if seacraft didn’t exist this would be what I’m looking at.

Sportfisher like Viking, Jupiter, Paul Mann custom
Bertram
Yellowfin
Seavee
Contender
Maybe the right whaler like an outrage 330
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Old 07-29-2020, 08:22 AM
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I’ll never get rid of this seafari 25. I’d love to get a master angler 27 but I’m sure none in Hawaii. I’m sure I couldn’t afford any of these but if seacraft didn’t exist this would be what I’m looking at.

Sportfisher like Viking, Jupiter, Paul Mann custom
Bertram
Yellowfin
Seavee
Contender
Maybe the right whaler like an outrage 330

One of those is nothing like the others haha!
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Old 07-28-2020, 10:03 PM
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Boats that I may look at after next year without kids at home:
27 Blackfin Fisharound
27 SeaCraft
29 Blackfin Flybridge and Combi
35 Contender Side Console
We have three Blackfins at our boatyard we take care of. A 38, a 32, and a 29.
They all ride phenomenally.
I don't know what kind of black magic they put into their hulls, but they definitely are one of the best riding boats I've ever run.
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Old 07-29-2020, 05:06 PM
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We have three Blackfins at our boatyard we take care of. A 38, a 32, and a 29.
They all ride phenomenally.
I don't know what kind of black magic they put into their hulls, but they definitely are one of the best riding boats I've ever run.

Cool! Their forum has very good information. The 29 Combi outboard runs very differently, but still quite well - 47mph. I've talked with the owner of 2 29's - a Combi with twin 300 Etec G2's and other 29 Flybridge with the standard inboards.


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You are so ruined.


Sandy-I'm very ruined...…….Ansley may be mostly online for her senior year at Manatee High. So, opening the 2nd office over there in PBC will ruin me even more with that offshore so close while spending a week or two there each month. The 18SF is at Loggerhead marina in Jupiter inside on a dry rack just sitting there! Ready to go fishing??
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Old 07-29-2020, 07:42 PM
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I had never heard that the 26 Reg Express was a crappy ride...good to know.

Boats that I may look at after next year without kids at home:
27 Blackfin Fisharound
27 SeaCraft
29 Blackfin Flybridge and Combi
35 Contender Side Console
The 35 Contender is a Cary splash and not a great ride even loaded down. They are popular right now to rebuild as 3 people I know personally have restored them. They are ok at best ride wise but have lots of room. Much better hulls out there in that size class that would run circles around them in seas.

If I was to take on another project build it would likely be either a 30+ Baha, a 32' Tempest or a 31 Fountain. All very affordable but likely require full, deck off rebuilds.
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Old 07-29-2020, 09:14 PM
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The 35 Contender is a Cary splash and not a great ride even loaded down. They are popular right now to rebuild as 3 people I know personally have restored them. They are ok at best ride wise but have lots of room.
Moose-Not a fan, huh? Dave Pascoe reviewed the Blackfin version of the Cary 33 below. He loved the boat. He uses the phrase “knife through butter” and goes on to say “It's got that certain same "something" as old Bertrams and SeaCrafts do, and which is why we find so many of them being restored.”

Here is the Pascoe report:
https://www.yachtsurvey.com/boatreviews/blackfin_33.htm

Contender bought the mold from Blackfin who got it from Cary. It was popular for quite a while.... 1990-2014 as a Contender. Have you been on the custom pilot house 35 Contender, the one that was your diving buds? What was your take on the down side to the ride? Did the pilot house modification accentuate the 24.5 degrees deadrise roll at anchor? I have heard that the hull CG changes a bit when the 300 plus gallon tanks are low since the hull was originally built for inboards. I have never heard that the ride was bad.

Bigshrimpin posted a great article on the hull truth about Cary and Aronow a while back.
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Old 08-02-2020, 10:10 PM
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Moose-Not a fan, huh? Dave Pascoe reviewed the Blackfin version of the Cary 33 below. He loved the boat. He uses the phrase “knife through butter” and goes on to say “It's got that certain same "something" as old Bertrams and SeaCrafts do, and which is why we find so many of them being restored.”

Here is the Pascoe report:
https://www.yachtsurvey.com/boatreviews/blackfin_33.htm

Contender bought the mold from Blackfin who got it from Cary. It was popular for quite a while.... 1990-2014 as a Contender. Have you been on the custom pilot house 35 Contender, the one that was your diving buds? What was your take on the down side to the ride? Did the pilot house modification accentuate the 24.5 degrees deadrise roll at anchor? I have heard that the hull CG changes a bit when the 300 plus gallon tanks are low since the hull was originally built for inboards. I have never heard that the ride was bad.

Bigshrimpin posted a great article on the hull truth about Cary and Aronow a while back.
I spent quite a bit of time on Dan’s and we both shared the same opinion that the hull for its size delivered quite a beating in head and quartering seas. While Dan did lighten it up considerably during the build, the commercial load more than compensated for the loss. I think the boats overall width all the way to the bow created too much lift into seas. This was exaggerated due to wide outer lifting stakes that went all the way to the bow. While the boat has good deadrise inside of the strokes the overall deadrise thru the length of the hull was not enough to allow the bow to “cut” thru the wave. Compare the hull to a 25 SeaCraft with forward deadrise like a knife. This is what the 35 contender lacks. IMHO the 32 Contender rides considerably better than the 35.

Below is a comparison of the contender and his current Tempest hull.
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