Here We Go Again - Page 2

FELLOW-SHIP · #1 08-24-2006, 10:14 AM

That’s the best looking 37 yr old transom I have ever seen. Mine looked like chocolate pudding when I did mine.

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Lenny · #2 08-24-2006, 02:38 PM

Strick Marine Liquidators has the exact console Trayder has check there site

strick · #3 09-25-2006, 02:25 AM

OK I'm back in the saddle again. I've been busy at work and I took 5 days off to go deer hunting. If you are a deer hunter then click here to see Bambi's dad: http://www.casdvm.com/photos/Trinity%202006/ If you have hunted blacktail deer before you will appreciate this buck.

The transom is finished on the inside. There is a layer of 1708 and a layer of woven roving. I meant to put 2 layers of 1708 but I ran out of material and Bigshrimpin was kind enough to let me have a little of his woven roving to finish the transom. Next I glassed over the foam stringer extensions with 2 layers of 1708. Here is a shot of the transom and the stringer extensions:

I drilled a few holes in the existing fiberglass stringers and filled them with foam making a good mess in the process.

After cleaning up the excess foam I ripped some strips of 3/4 marine plywood the width of the stringers. I'm going to use these to raise the highth of the stringers. These pieces were then cut to length of each the stringers. I used screws and 5 minute epoxy to glue two pieces of the 3/4" strips on top of each other. The tops and sides were routed leaving a smooth bevel so the fiberglass would comform to the contour leaving no air pockets. I mixed some cabosil and glued the plywood strips to the top's of the stringers.

Having completed that I then cut some 1708 to cover the tops of the stringers thus encapsulating the new plywood strips.

This week I hope to get a little more done. I have to tab the stringers to the transom and start working on the floor. It's going a little slower then I had planned.

strick

71kidcasper · #4 09-25-2006, 01:47 PM

Strick, That's a great looking blacktail. I'm not use to seeing anything other than whitetails, and I do mean deer. Is that possibly a cross between a mulie and a blacktail? Boat looks great also. Keep the pix coming you give me new ideas all the time.

oldbluesplayer · #5 09-25-2006, 03:16 PM

Man - this is a study in beautiful workmanship - Nice !!

Congrats on the deer - beautiful country - looked like a good place for my .257 Roberts - it's kinda lost out here in the New England woods.

Interesting bit on the vinylester vs epoxy resins - I knew that epoxy runs about 30%, or better, stronger than polyester, in glassing to existing fully cured glass, where all you're getting is the secondary bond - any idea where vinylester runs in that comparison ? I've never worked with vinylester before - how do you rate it for ease of mixing / working pot life / wettability / temperature sensitivity / etc- the usual resin characterisitics ???

thanks

Bill

RUSTYNTABATHA · #6 09-25-2006, 10:32 PM

INCREDIBLE DEER we whitetail hunt in the al blackbelt. The boat is coming along great also. congrats !!!!!

strick · #7 09-26-2006, 01:04 AM

Thanks fellas for the comments about the deer.. including yours spider crab. It's an honor to have you reply to one of my posts. We busted our butts up there. Backpacked about 8 miles into the Trinity alps wilderness. We had to pack water 2 miles to our campsite which was situtated 5 minutes from the two canyons we hunt. That enabled us to get to our hunting area well before daylight. Only other people we saw were on horse back. Got snowed on which was a suprise but made hunting conditions easier. The buck was killed well within the boundries for pure blacktail deer. The Alps are known for their pure high quality black tail gene pool. He scores 129 6/8 points which is 6 2/8 points away from making the all time B&C Records of North American Big Game...which is why one may be inclined to mistake him for a muley hybred.

Old Blue- I dont really know much about all this technical stuff bond strength difference's etc...Like I said in an earlier post I'm used to using epoxy for the most part. I've been making sure that the area that I'm laminating to has been rough sanded so the stuff stick's when I put it down. So far no problems. The vinylester is very easy to work with. Easier then epoxy. It wets well and the pot life is long enough for getting the job done. I've been mixing 1-2 quarts at a time. Everything seems to be holding together so far. No progress tonight.... drank two beers and just stared at it for a while trying to get ideas.

strick

Spidercrab · #8 09-25-2006, 11:43 PM

dats a big'un mr strick. shoot i stufed up in ole buck lest year nex 2 meemas poorch door. jed pissed cause he wants to eat it.sezz the dat tail be finger lickin good

Yamtt125 · #9 09-26-2006, 01:07 AM

Strick, its great to see some more progress from you.
The boat is lookin great. I understand how slow it can go. I am doing the same thing to my 71 20' and things always interupt me from working on it.
Its interesting to compare yours to mine. For some reason, there was absolutly no foam in mine. I have yet to see one on this board with no foam except for mine.
I do have a couple questions on the build up of your transom...do you think that only 2 layers of 1708 is enough? I was working on mine this weekend, and was able to get the cabosil mixture under and around the wood, and I also laid up one sheet of 1708 on it. I was thinking of doing 2 layers of 1708, then 2 more of a 6oz cloth or something like that. Do you think this is overkill?
What do you plan on doing with the floor? Are you going to reuse the old floor? If so, what are your going to do with the diamond pattern on it? I would like to reuse my floor, but there are many parts of the floor that iether have chips or scrathces in the diamond pattern, and it would just be a pain in the butt to fix it.
Once again, great progress and i look forward to seeing more great work.

-Andrew

strick · #10 09-27-2006, 10:03 AM

Andrew-

Interesting that there was no foam. They just poured foam in my boat kinda in a random manner I'm guessing just to meet coast guard requirements?

An ex boat builder once told me that standard lay up or a transom going from outside to inside the transom consisted of 3/8 inch thick outerlayer glass, 1 1/2 inch core material (plywood, coosa, whatever) then 1/4 inch inner layer of glass. Each layer of 1708 will give you about 1/16 inch thickness. That being said I'm only putting the 1 layer of 1708 and the woven roving. The corners of the transom and around the stringers will get beefed up with 3-4 layers. The transom on my boat had 1 layer of woven roving and matt and it lasted 37 years. As for the floor, I'm planning on re using the skin and for simplicity I will probably go with a new plywood core. I will fix the cracks in the skin but I'll have to see how that goes once I dive into it. It is going to be a big PITA to fix. Hope some of this helps.

strick