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Old 04-28-2008, 10:15 AM
CaptLloyd CaptLloyd is offline
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Default Re: Torn out through-hull drain please HELP (with pix)

YES, you really need to do something.

Looks like the pick-up for the live well is missing. The pick-up is a bronze fitting mounted to the bottom of the hull that "scoops up" the water for the live well.

Remove the plastic fitting and install a bronze pick-up with a seacock(valve) bedded properly with 5200.

If you don't use it as a live well, fiberglas over the holes.

Good luck!

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Old 04-28-2008, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: Torn out through-hull drain please HELP (with

THANKS for the replies! I don't recall seeing a wood block at all but I'm heading to the boat and I will see if I can get some pix of that area. I have the batteries out and am replacing the bilge pump and deck hatch so I have good access right now. Keep the ideas coming please as to how to specifically solve this problem.

-Jeff
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Torn out through-hull drain please HELP (with

I am 99.999999% sure that fitting was an afterthought by the previous owner. Most of the original 20'cc livewells I have seen have a 4" hole in the transom with a removable pie plate and drain holes for filling and these were on the port side.

Since what you are showing is on the starboard side (I think hard to tell from pictures) i think someone put hat hole in afterwards for something else, wash down sys perhaps???

If you want to keep it the hole as a thru-hull do as capt loyd suggests with a bronze pick up/thru hull and a ball valve inside to turn it off.

If you want to fill it you will have to grind/feather the outside back and lay glass. What concerns me (not really but more effort will be needed) is the liner from the livewell on the inside of the hull. I would want to lay glass inside the hull, under the livewell liner. So you would have to cut out a section of the liner to lay glass from the inside.

What I an stumped on is the fact you have an inner liner for the livewell (not doubting this) but on my 1969 when you lifted the aft hatch boxes you had access to the inside of the hull, there was no liner?
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: Torn out through-hull drain please HELP (with

That's the same thing that has me sratching my head too, it looks like a liner in the bilge.. Battery box maybe?
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Torn out through-hull drain please HELP (with

This livewell is in the center of the boat forward of the motor well. Here is the view from underneath, please give me your opinions on what is happening down here.


-Jeff
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:58 AM
Trayder Trayder is offline
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yup the previous owner did a no no. you can patch it from the underside of the hull feather the hole out with a grinder and lay glass and be done with it. Or take out the saw and rip out the area in the livewell that is obstructing the inside of the hole and lay in new glass there and then do the same on the underside.

Just putting in a new thru hole or just glassing from the underside may work but you will never be 100% sure unless you have access to the area under that well.
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Old 04-29-2008, 03:57 PM
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its like Deja Vu.......

http://www.classicmako.com/forum/top...TOPIC_ID=22050
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Old 04-29-2008, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Torn out through-hull drain please HELP (with

Trayder,

Thanks I see what you are saying. I am leaning toward glass over top & bottom because I think there is currently too much flex between the bottom of the livewell and the hull to put a tube that connects the two without cracking again. After all, the reason it was fixed in the first place was because of this same issue.

I value the opinions of this site as well as the Mako & Aquasport sites as well. Just want to reach the largest audience to solicit opinions from. I love these forums have been visiting them & the Hull Truth for many years, just haven't been working on boats as much as I would have liked.

Thanks again for all the input, keep it coming please!

-Jeff
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:04 PM
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This livewell is in the center of the boat forward of the motor well. Here is the view from underneath, please give me your opinions on what is happening down here.


-Jeff
the water pickup on my 20 is the same way. i think it is leaking a little also so i need to change it out. so that is the wrong way to have the water pick up? what other easy options do i have?? i want to remove the livewell because i think it will come out and put a strainer on the bottom of the boat with a seacock inside the livewell and the pump mounted to it just like it is now. i will put pictures on tomorrow of the current set up. any opinions for now would help. thanks
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Torn out through-hull drain please HELP (with

How will you get the livewell out?? I have a fiberglass guy coming to check it out tomorrow I'll let you know what his suggestions are, and take photos as we progress.
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