Raising transom to 25" - Page 2

RS · #11 12-01-2005, 11:07 AM

Dan,
You may not have an issue with self bailing with the 140. I was pleaasantly surprised to find I had no problem evacuating lots of wash and rinse water when I had my boat recently in a slip. As you know, I have that Honda anvil on my transom along with the two 20# trolling motors on the tabs.

dcobbett · #12 12-01-2005, 01:04 PM

Roger,

Having fished your boat, I agree. The other contradiction to my concern seems to be the redo of a 20 by "riffraff" that is posted on the SeaCraft Photo's forum; he said he has good drainage through his scuppers with a 200 Yanaha on the transom. Tha only thing I can say about that project is that the drains are near the boats centerline, but they seem to work well.

ScottM · #13 12-01-2005, 01:22 PM

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I fished with a friend from M'head last season. He has a 140 on the back of a 1975 22-2 Aquasport.

Is this boat completely restored? If so, I talked with him out at Stellwagen this season. He swung by to see if we had seen any SBFT. If it's the same one, it is a beautiful boat.

Trayder · #14 12-01-2005, 01:39 PM

Couple of things:

1: the Suzuki 140 is LIGHTER than the 115 so if you are concerned about the weight it goes for the 115 as well. the 90/115/and 140 share the same block.

2: There have to be 10+ classic 20 seacraft CC's in chatham harbor with 115-140 Suzuki 4 strokes on the transom. Call Ryders cove ( the local Suzuki dealer) and see if they have had any issues.

3: you will have to re-do the entire transom

4: Congrats and good luck with your new 20

cSickNick · #15 12-01-2005, 07:43 PM

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My options are 115 to 140/150, depending on what brand I chose. A local Suzuki dealer is saying the 140 is actually rated at about 130 (shaft), based on "dyno" testing, and their 115 actually puts out 120-125HP. He says the best deal he can offer is on the 140 (<10K), but the best buy (Suzuki) for the SeaCraft is probably the 115 (6.5-7K+/-). Any opinions on his comments?

I am not sure why, but it seems like Zuke dealers are pumping up the price on the DF140. When i purchased, prices seemed to be within a $1K. Now it seems more like $2K+.

Is it just the DF140 demand? Or they trying to clear out DF115? What's the deal? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I can testify that the DF140 has been a great flawless motor [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], but if repowering today ... $2k+ ... i would rethink my options ... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Well, at least us 4-stroke Zuke guys have hundreds of thousands of hours before our kids think about the next repower! [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

- Nick

riffraff · #16 12-01-2005, 08:12 PM

I can tell you that my boat drains fine with the 200 HPDI Yammy, I do have the rabuds and they work great. I did not raise my deck, I did raise the transom to 25. If you stand near the transom, a small amount of water would enter (before installing the rabuds). I know a lot of you guys like the 4s 140 suzukis, but personally, I would get the biggest motor that fit into my budget. I paid about 11k for my motor new in the box..Good luck, lots of decisions to make! By the way Dan, I am sorry I haven't gotten you the info on the trailer, just haven't made it up to the boatyard to get it.

fishstu · #17 12-02-2005, 06:41 PM

Dan - my 2 cents

A full replacement 25" transom will not cost that much more than a proper strong patch job, which will not crack at the joint (they almost always do). To make the 5" extension strong/stiff enough to be structurally integral (equivalent to a complete new transom) with the original transom requires adding several whole layers of fiber grass over the complete modified transom inside and out. Adds more weight than a complete new transom

A complete, new, well-done 25" transom adds a lot of value to a SC, I don’t think extending a 30-year-old transom makes a lot of financial sense.

The 140 Suzuki 4S is a great engine for that boat, good usable speed with good economy - I don’t see any advantage in getting the 115 hp. A new engine in the 130 - 150 hp range is considered sweet for this boat and adds a lot of value. Many consider 115 hp a little underpowered.

My SC 20 has a 150 Merc EFI that suits me.

dcobbett · #18 12-03-2005, 11:26 AM

fishstu,

I agree. It's just that the proper way to do the jod seems to be from the inside, and then you end up with a lot of cutting and patching of good fiberglass.

riffraff

Your boat is very interesting (looks great, too). It's really one of the first SeaCrafts that I'd heard of that has a heavy engine and a relatively dry, standard height deck. BTW, no problem re: the trailer. Boat is now home and in the driveway.

cSickNick,

If you don't mind me asking, how lond ago did you buy, and how much did you spend? The price ranges I mentioned includ mounting and controls, tach, etc., and, at least right now, it looks like Suzuki is below other brands for comparable HP.

Trayder,

Thanks. I'll get in touch with someone at Ryder's.

ScottM,

I wouldn't call it completely restored, but it is in great shape. Hull color is off white, original off green rub rail, very small leaning post with removable Todd post and flush deck plates.

ScottM · #19 12-03-2005, 08:28 PM

dcobbett,
That's the boat.

Bigshrimpin · #20 12-04-2005, 07:37 AM

The previous owner of my MA had a transom cap made up from 1/4" welded aluminum plate made up that spans the entire transom notch. The plate raises the original transom 5" to 25". I have a 225 Merc on the back and it's rock solid (just friggin ugly).

My other MA had it's transom raised 5". Here's a shot of their work.