27' Moesly Flybridge to CC Conversion

[KenB]

Did anyone see the mosely project boat on cape cod craigslist? It was cheap but not cheap enough for me!

[gofastsandman]

I want to take the photos also, I may be in Stuart for the Martin County nautical flea market.

Keep me posted as to time n such. Fishing after?

BTW I do have a couple photos of my buddies 19 Key west next to it.

I want some of the 21 chasing the 20 A la Pac Man.
Then and only then will people who have never seen one begin to understand how massive that beast really is.

I hear you on the flash time. When I recored the coffin cover, it was hot. I had everything numbered and all laid out ready to rock. I backed off 50 %{max} on the MEK and
I really had to fly.

I wondered about squeezing everything out. Thanks for the mono tip. # test?

Confession. I REALLY, REALLY SUCK at body work and am deathly afraid of making a mess of the gelcoat. The rails are already drilled for 10 # 10 screws per rail. 11 " apart.
Thoughts?
Thx Brian,
GFS

[red20]

I think that boat was docked on the pocket in port salerno back in the early 90's. pretty sure it was at the commercial fishing docks. if not this on there used to be one there i checked out a few times.

[bmajvi]

3rdday - My apologies if this has been talked through elsewhere on the site - I've not had the pleasure of seeing a Moesly & Potter era hull "bottoms up" next to each other for comparison...what do you consider the major/most significant design differences? I was under the impression that the 23 was a stretched Moesly 21, at least the underwater VDH portion of the hull. Thanks, Brian

[Bushwacker]

. . . But it's hard for me to be happy about this conversion... it looks like a great job and the workmanship is first class. Why do that to a classic hull? If you want a CC with classic seacraft ride in a 27, go get an albin or a silverhawk.

Maybe I am way off base, but I would have preferred to see that boat restored to it's original condition. Anyway, what do others think?

I agree Ken - there are thousands of CC's around but very few Moesly boats, especially the 27! It always hurts my head to see such a rare unique boat destroyed to convert into something that looks just like thousands of other boats out there. Kinda like converting a rare original GT-40 into a 1/4 mile dragster with a big slicks, a wing and wheelie bars on the back of it! I'm sure it would have been much cheaper to just go buy a Tracker 27 if you want a 27 CC! There have even been a couple of them for sale on this site recently. I think I've only seen about 3 flybridge 27's for sale in the last 10 years!

[BigLew]

The workmanship seems terrific; the choice of project was less than ideal. It is both a shame, as far as I am concerned, and the owner's right to do it. If this was a forum of Ford Model A enthusiasts, we'd cringe each time we saw a Model A being used as a beat-up yard truck in a saw mill, farm, what have you. At least the hull is looking good, doing what it was designed to do and doing it well. That's nice to see.

I agree with all, it seems a shame. Kind of like loosing a friend we never got to know, if that makes any sense.

[3rdday]

That boat was for sale for $1500 back in '95. The boat was the "Raven", and it sank at the dock at Anchorage Yacht Basin in Melbourne. The owner had just finished installing two new engines the say before it sank, but managed to tear the new bellows on one drive. I raised it the same day, pickled the engines and forklifted it to an outside rack, where it sat for 4 years. Six months later, Suntrust bank turned down my offer of $500, even though it was costing the bank $145 a month to sit on the rack at the marina. I guess they wanted their $1500.
In '99, it was moved to Grant, Florida, where both the engines and drives were removed, and it was listed for sale on projectboats.net for $500 or best offer. I don't know who Gary at Project boats sold it to, but I heard it sold for only $200 back in '02.

Nice to have additionally history on it.That owner had to have been sick to his stomach after that. Gary told me he sold it for 2K, I may be mistaken we talked about A Scepter he had, and a Seavette.

[3rdday]

Terry you called it, I know....... you did'nt have to say anything. I am still happy no regrets, you wont have any either.

[3rdday]

I want some of the 21 chasing the 20 A la Pac Man.
Then and only then will people who have never seen one begin to understand how massive that beast really is.

I hear you on the flash time. When I recored the coffin cover, it was hot. I had everything numbered and all laid out ready to rock. I backed off 50 %{max} on the MEK and
I really had to fly.

I wondered about squeezing everything out. Thanks for the mono tip. # test?

Confession. I REALLY, REALLY SUCK at body work and am deathly afraid of making a mess of the gelcoat. The rails are already drilled for 10 # 10 screws per rail. 11 " apart.
Thoughts?
Thx Brian,
GFS

30-40 lb test
I don't like screwing anything thru the hull, Inevatably no matter how meticulously you seal the crew holes, one or many will leak, and if the penetrations are below deck you won't know until you see the "extra" water in the bilge.
Dont be scared of the gelcoat, you are going to remove it, just stay INSIDE the lines.

[3rdday]

3rdday - My apologies if this has been talked through elsewhere on the site - I've not had the pleasure of seeing a Moesly & Potter era hull "bottoms up" next to each other for comparison...what do you consider the major/most significant design differences? I was under the impression that the 23 was a stretched Moesly 21, at least the underwater VDH portion of the hull. Thanks, Brian

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You won't see the differences standing up looking at the hulls, except for the height of the longitudinal steps, you will see that right away, you won't detect the differences in pictures, you must get low and even underneath the hulls so see what I see.
From what I hear it was based off the 21, I dont think so, there are too many differences and they are not all sublte,however there are dramatic differences; The verticle steps on the 23 are not as tall, they are about 1/2 the height. On the 21 there are no reverses or change in the upward shape of each panel as the panel angle rises up and outboard, on the 23 the angle changes to horizontal and on some panels there is a reverse or return at the transition to the step.(my opinion; this does not make sense)
I also think the v is more agressive on the 21. There are othe nuances that are not as major or obvious, but are surely adventageous to performance. I dove in the keys with a 23 next to me and watched from below the hulls at anchor in the waves, there is a difference. The taller steps on the 21 create larger air pockets, which allow for softer ride and break friction between hull & water= efficiency.
The lack of reverses in the hull shape also allow for softer ride, the hull penetrates the water and isn't slowed by a flat spot or reverse. The 21, even with its agressive V, does not need any lift, so no need for flats or reverses.

I think the 21 hull is a masterpiece. So are the other 1st generation Seacraft hulls.