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Old 01-31-2017, 10:12 PM
gofastsandman gofastsandman is offline
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With all due respect Ken...
I took the hook out of my 20 SF when re-habbing and bolted
a heavily modified 200 HP carbed Merc that hits 64 MPH with
a light load at top end WOT !!!

So a 23 with more then three times the ponnies doing 90 MPH is
not out of range...

Just my 2¢ worth...
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:23 PM
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With all due respect Ken...
I took the hook out of my 20 SF when re-habbing and bolted
a heavily modified 200 HP carbed Merc that hits 64 MPH with
a light load at top end WOT !!!

So a 23 with more then three times the ponnies doing 90 MPH is
not out of range...

Just my 2¢ worth...
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:41 PM
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Old 01-31-2017, 11:32 PM
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Rooster is impressive...I want to see a video of Powering/Steering through the chinewalk! I have expired APBA life jackets, bad ass Shoie helmet and will sign the waiver!.!

When and Where?
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:37 PM
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With all due respect Ken...
I took the hook out of my 20 SF when re-habbing and bolted
a heavily modified 200 HP carbed Merc that hits 64 MPH with
a light load at top end WOT !!!

So a 23 with more then three times the ponnies doing 90 MPH is
not out of range...

Just my 2¢ worth...
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:09 AM
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That speed equates to 96mph.... sorry I'm calling BS. There are equally powered hulls out there that are built for speed that don't get near that.
I agree, there is no way he is doing anywhere in the 90's or for that matter probably in the high 80's. I know what my bracketed hull felt like doing over 63-65 mph and it didn't feel good. More than likely I can see it running somewhere in the 70's but that's going to be it with out special prep. It may have the potential to do over that but aint happening with out bottom mods. Now if he has big k trim tabs and could keep it from walking all over the place he probably could get it to behave in the 80's but me I wouldn't want to run it at wot.

Now, on the other side of things I bet he can cruse at 60 mph at 4800-5000 rpms all day if he can keep the fuel in it. Sometimes having more power isn't about wot but about being able to run a nice fast speed at 2/3 throttle. Going 60+ mph offshore on a nice day to the stream 60 miles out in just an hour would increase fishing time and make running back in not so bad. That's why I have a 400lb 200 on my 20. I can run 48 mph at 2/3 throttle all day and get where I want to go fairly fast. I cant stand cursing around below 40 unless I am just killing time.

I know a guy that had a 23 with twin 250's that maxed his out with 4 people on board at 67, he said the fastest he seen by his self was 63mph. Without the weight of the extra people he couldn't keep it in the water.

Now I will take that pair of outboards and throw them on the 27 in a heartbeat! They would do nicely. A little heavy but nicely.
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:37 AM
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I agree, there is no way he is doing anywhere in the 90's or for that matter probably in the high 80's. I know what my bracketed hull felt like doing over 63-65 mph and it didn't feel good. More than likely I can see it running somewhere in the 70's but that's going to be it with out special prep. It may have the potential to do over that but aint happening with out bottom mods. Now if he has big k trim tabs and could keep it from walking all over the place he probably could get it to behave in the 80's but me I wouldn't want to run it at wot.

Now, on the other side of things I bet he can cruse at 60 mph at 4800-5000 rpms all day if he can keep the fuel in it. Sometimes having more power isn't about wot but about being able to run a nice fast speed at 2/3 throttle. Going 60+ mph offshore on a nice day to the stream 60 miles out in just an hour would increase fishing time and make running back in not so bad. That's why I have a 400lb 200 on my 20. I can run 48 mph at 2/3 throttle all day and get where I want to go fairly fast. I cant stand cursing around below 40 unless I am just killing time.

I know a guy that had a 23 with twin 250's that maxed his out with 4 people on board at 67, he said the fastest he seen by his self was 63mph. Without the weight of the extra people he couldn't keep it in the water.

Now I will take that pair of outboards and throw them on the 27 in a heartbeat! They would do nicely. A little heavy but nicely.
You are right in line with my thinking. If this was even an 80 statute boat it would be dominating the Scream and Fly forum and would not need advertising to sell it. It kind of reminds me of the Flying Norsman with the triple V8s.... Just because you have the HP doesn't mean you have all that equates to a radically fast boat. Power is just 1/3 of the equation.

Nobody is more a SeaCraft koolaide drunkard as I am but I have been to the Suwannee meets and seen what it takes to get a boat into the 90s+ and the Potter 23 isn't the platform to do it in.
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Old 02-01-2017, 09:09 AM
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You are right in line with my thinking. If this was even an 80 statute boat it would be dominating the Scream and Fly forum and would not need advertising to sell it. It kind of reminds me of the Flying Norsman with the triple V8s.... Just because you have the HP doesn't mean you have all that equates to a radically fast boat. Power is just 1/3 of the equation.

Nobody is more a SeaCraft koolaide drunkard as I am but I have been to the Suwannee meets and seen what it takes to get a boat into the 90s+ and the Potter 23 isn't the platform to do it in.
Was on an island runner 26 w 250 optis 6 people and 67. Said he sees 72 light.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:03 AM
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Now if he has big k trim tabs and could keep it from walking all over the place he probably could get it to behave in the 80's but me I wouldn't want to run it at wot.

Now, on the other side of things I bet he can cruse at 60 mph at 4800-5000 rpms all day if he can keep the fuel in it. Sometimes having more power isn't about wot but about being able to run a nice fast speed at 2/3 throttle.
I rigged a new 20' SF back in the mid-80's with a Bridgeport 2.4L on a jack-plate, with 12" K-planes, and it could touch 70mph, but it was right on the edge of uncontrollable from about 62 and up, and even at 58, a hard crosswind gust would start it chine-walking.

Fast, but not so much fun cleaning your underwear after a full-throttle run. I rigged that thing for a young (twenty-something) female attorney in West Palm Beach. She kept the boat less than a year before trading it in on a 31 Tiara-Pursuit.
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:39 PM
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That's why I have a 400lb 200 on my 20. I can run 48 mph at 2/3 throttle all day and get where I want to go fairly fast. I cant stand cursing around below 40 unless I am just killing time.
FF I have a 20ft center console with a 400lb 200 Merc with a worn out 14" 19 pitch SS prop and get 48 at WOT bout 6800 RPM.

I need a new prop and I would like your suggestions.

I have been told the bigger diameter props for the 2.5 liter and four strokes are to big for my 2.0 liter.

I want to be in your range 48 mph at 2/3 throttle.

I know with my prop being worn so bad is increasing the RPMs a lot but I also think I may can do a 21pitch.

Suggestions please.
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