Is Seacraft 19 a Classic?

[Bushwacker]

Originally Posted by tommyg29

Im certainly in for pics too.
I am looking for a 20cc, but the converted 19 is basically the same boat I assume . . .

Almost forgot, it has the spray rails which Ive noticed on some others. Were they an optional thing, or did they come only on certain models? Do they really help with spray?

Moesly actually modified a 19 mold to make the 20! Carla said Keikhaefer, who was a big SeaCraft fan, wanted a boat to race in a 20' class, so Carl literally took a chainsaw to a 19 mold, making cuts down the stem and then about halfway back along the chine. The 19 is a wet boat because it doesn't have much flare in the bow, so Carl moved the sides out about an inch at the chine (you'll notice a flat about 1" wide at the chine on the front half of the 20' hull), and then flared the sides out as you move forward. He then created the clipper bow to tie the whole thing together, which increased CL length to 19'8", so I guess that was close enough for it to be considered a 20' boat!

So bottom line is that the 20 is IDENTICAL to the 19' hull below the chine! Only differences are the increased bow flare, the flat at the chine, and the clipper bow on the 20. The spray rails are a good addition on the 19!

[flyingfrizzle]

Originally Posted by tommyg29

Yes, and another "project" in Homestead, but I havent actually seen the blue one yet. You know it?
Oculyer, those are PICTURES. You know how to come across.
Sandman, I have looked at 3 different classics over the past year, and all have had the rails

Well the main reason you see so many spray rails on the 19 ' s is because the hull dose not have the same chine as the 20's do forward on the hull edge. Look at the 20's and you will see the chine runs forward all the way to the nose stepping out wards and turns down slightly. The 19' s don't run as far forward so its not there to break the spray and throw it outwards so rails are added . They get the boat on plane quicker and also keep it from digging in a following sea as well as keep the spray from coming back in the boat. They help on any boat but not needed on a 20 as much as the 19 hull due to it is built out more in the area circled below. There were other changes between the two but that is the main one I know about other than the inside lay out and the stringer grid instead of the box stringers in the 20's. Terry and the guys that have them can tell you much more. I just had some one show me this difference one a long time ago.

[tommyg29]

Sounds like the 20s were a definite improvement to the 19, but arent they really about the same length? Ive seen posted numbers running 19' all the way to 20'7" for a 19
The blue 19 CC is advertised with a 60 gallon tank. Im guessing thats about as big as you can shoehorn in there and a definite plus, but the tanks werent/arent boxed in with the stringers? Is that the "one piece grillage" system Ive seen in pictures? Is that in the 19?

[Terry England]

Originally Posted by ocuyler

The 19' and 20' hulls are very similar with some additional bow lift built into the 19'.

Otto is correct. Carl Moesly did something to the forefoot on the Bowriders that prevents them from "plowing" no matter how much weight you put in the bow. I run with this load up in the bow Tanks, Coolers, dive gear, coolers etc. and the front bow light always runs 4' off of the sea surface. I don't have to much to counter balance the bow load either with an E-tec 90. (KMoose and I are the only ones on this site with Non-skid dashes - our SeaCrafts are the other end of the spectrum of Capt. Chuck's and Blue Heron's showpieces)

[manitunc]

Originally Posted by Ryan

I've seen it.very nice restoration. If you can get him down a little bit it's a very nice deal.

I think this boat is for sale again, and I am interested. Although, the pictures show a long crack on the port inner liner beside the console/leaning post area. Anyone know anything about this boat and the cause of the crack?

[gofastsandman]

I know where there is a nice 19 bowrider
Solid hull deck and transom
96 130 rude
Trailer
Think it has a new tank as well
3 k is what he wants bottom line

[manitunc]

To the dark blue one with the 2004 Evinrude 150 that was redone and for sale a couple of years ago . A prior poster was going to look at it and another poster indicated it was a very good rebuild. It's a 1968 20' with a close transom bracket.

[gofastsandman]

Nope. Just around the corner.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by manitunc

To the dark blue one with the 2004 Evinrude 150 that was redone and for sale a couple of years ago . A prior poster was going to look at it and another poster indicated it was a very good rebuild. It's a 1968 20' with a close transom bracket.

I don't think that's the same boat. I'm 99 percent sure it's not.

[manitunc]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Tommy are you looking at a blue 19 in Miami that's been fully restored?

Im pretty sure this was the one they were talking about. Its listed on craiglist miami as a 1968 20' seacraft potter hull, with 2004 evinrude 150, blue, closed transom and bracket, wood accent on console, livewell built into transom