M o e s l y 21

[ocuyler]

Joe -

I've had both a 20 CC and Seafari. Both are terrific, but different. I currently have a 23CC that we fully renovated and is awesome. But she like bigger water and now we are renovating a '67 bowrider 19', which has a 90 eTec. In my humble opinion, the best all around is a 20CC with at least 85 HP up to 130ish.

Arguably, there has been no definitive evidence that any year SeaCraft hull is not worthy with the possible exception of a random structural issue with a 2000 25CC.

If you are willing to make a significant investment in time and energy, you can not make a mistake with a these hulls. As you have seen, you can do what ever with a renovation or just get a good one and run her. You may have it for a long time.

With this great family on CSC, it becomes both the journey AND the destination. Good Luck!

[TomParis]

well said ocuyler!

[jdm61]

Originally Posted by ocuyler

Joe -

I've had both a 20 CC and Seafari. Both are terrific, but different. I currently have a 23CC that we fully renovated and is awesome. But she like bigger water and now we are renovating a '67 bowrider 19', which has a 90 eTec. In my humble opinion, the best all around is a 20CC with at least 85 HP up to 130ish.

Arguably, there has been no definitive evidence that any year SeaCraft hull is not worthy with the possible exception of a random structural issue with a 2000 25CC.

If you are willing to make a significant investment in time and energy, you can not make a mistake with a these hulls. As you have seen, you can do what ever with a renovation or just get a good one and run her. You may have it for a long time.

With this great family on CSC, it becomes both the journey AND the destination. Good Luck!

Thanks, Otto and Wattaway,
The 18 or 20 would work best for me in my current tow vehicle situation. We have my mother's low mileage 2006 Chevy Colorado "gardening truck" as kind of a communal hauling and towing vehicle and it will pull 4000 lbs which is probably less than would require for a a 23. My sister in law had one of those giant GMC Yukon Denali's but it's tow weight is whatever her three kids can stuff in the back. We use the truck to tow my brothers Key West 1990 Sportsman, but that is a fairly light boat. i have no illusions about gong offshore in this part of the world, but getting out to say Egmont without getting my backside whooped would sure be nice and being abel to trailer to the east coast of the Keys and go a little ways out there would be gravy. The better news is that my dad is moving to an high fenced acre plus on the river and the property has a 25 x 35 concrete block shop building with a lean-to on the side up by the road for all of our collective toys. Won't he be pleased? LOL I just saw a 77 Potter 18 with a mid 2000's "Johnzuki" 140hp 4 stroke listed for sale in South Florida right now. Might be worth a look. The ad said it was restored, but who knows what that means?

[FishStretcher]

The GVW for my 20 MA on a single axle aluminum bunk trailer is 4300 lb. I suspect empty, it is about 3500lb. It has surge brakes. This includes the 800 lb aluminum trailer.

I towed my 20 home from the prior owner behind an automatic 2WD 2.7 liter Tacoma. For 120 miles. I wouldn't do it again, but it also didn't drop the transmission in the street, either.

[jdm61]

Originally Posted by FishStretcher

The GVW for my 20 MA on a single axle aluminum bunk trailer is 4300 lb. I suspect empty, it is about 3500lb. It has surge brakes. This includes the 800 lb aluminum trailer.

I towed my 20 home from the prior owner behind an automatic 2WD 2.7 liter Tacoma. For 120 miles. I wouldn't do it again, but it also didn't drop the transmission in the street, either.

Thanks for the info. I was wonder what size trailer you needed. I was surprised that the Tacoma is only rated by Toyota for 3500 lbs. It seems like a larger truck that the old Colorado. The new diesel Colorado/Canyon series is rated for like 7000 but they only come in the extended cab Z71 or higher spec and who in their right mind is going to pay $37,000 for a compact pickup? Criminy!!!!! As my grandfather used to say, stuff has gone up since the war.

[gofastsandman]

Originally Posted by jdm61

Thanks for the info. I was wonder what size trailer you needed. I was surprised that the Tacoma is only rated by Toyota for 3500 lbs. It seems like a larger truck that the old Colorado. The new diesel Colorado/Canyon series is rated for like 7000 but they only come in the extended cab Z71 or higher spec and who in their right mind is going to pay $37,000 for a compact pickup? Criminy!!!!! As my grandfather used to say, stuff has gone up since the war.

Compact???
It`s bigger than a 67-72 c 10 me thinks.

My 6 cyl s 10 is getting 15 mpg w ac mixed driving this summah...towing is 9-10...

[jdm61]

Originally Posted by gofastsandman

Compact???
It`s bigger than a 67-72 c 10 me thinks.

My 6 cyl s 10 is getting 15 mpg w ac mixed driving this summah...towing is 9-10...

That's how they sell it. The new one certainly looks bigger than ours. I about had an aneurism when I saw the price on the diesel version, but later, someone was talking about looking at a pimped Ford F250 extended cab truck with the Ecoboost turbo V6 and not the optional Power Stroke diesel with a sticker on the window that said $68,000, so I guess everything is crazy expensive now!!!!!!

[gofastsandman]

Originally Posted by jdm61

That's how they sell it. The new one certainly looks bigger than ours. I about had an aneurism when I saw the price on the diesel version, but later, someone was talking about looking at a pimped Ford F250 extended cab truck with the Ecoboost turbo V6 and not the optional Power Stroke diesel with a sticker on the window that said $68,000, so I guess everything is crazy expensive now!!!!!!

Some are bigger than a Mack B now.

[McGillicuddy]

I've got a T100 w 3.4L rated for 5200 lbs and wish I had more truck (at least posi-traction)[ when towing Seafari 20 on old galvi tandem trailer. Tundra w 4.7 and longer wheelbase would be perfect.

In my mind, the 21 (#147) requires a 3/4 ton or maybe a modern 1/2 ton Tundra.

[jdm61]

Longing for the days when you could buy an old beat to hell large V8 family sedan and tow a boat. But that was a LONG time ago. LOL Th only reason that our Colorado will tow 400 is that the dealer was a friend and gave a sweetheart deal on the bigger 5 cylinder engine because he knew that my mom liked to do stuff like haul loads of topsoil, mulch etc. from Home Depot and make her ingrate children unload it. ;-) The 4 cylinder model had a towing weight of as low as 1500. Pretty useless.