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"THE VORTEX"
Due to this new and dynamic, product which will prove to change your whole life I felt a entire new topic of “THE VORTEX” was in order.
“THE VORTEX IS COMING” Well friends I am happy to report that the Bata testing is over and this “all new” product design will be ready very very soon. Saturday I took several variations of “ THE VORTEX” out to sea in 2’ to 4’ seas with a occasional 5 footer drifting yes friends drifting allowing the waves to rock and rock, bouncing up and down up and down side to side, side to side for over 5 consecutive hours of “THE VORTEX” testing with two full size men standing, and bouncing and rocking as close to the transom as possible and all types of “THE VORTEX” past all fazes of field testing with flying collars. Yes friends (you will never ever see two fountains of water spitting up gallons of water from your port and starboard scupper again). “THE VORTEX” will eliminate all water, yes friends ALL WATER from coming into your boat from those scuppers that have plagued the SeaCraft community for over 30 years. I will be posting Design Plans, Tool List, Parts to Purchase and Step by Step procedures to make your own. Yes friends I am going give you F R E E OF C H A R G E all specks for “THE VORTEX” so you can make them on your own. My out lay or cost for both scuppers has come in as previously stated for under $1.00 and that is for Both scuppers, but you might want to go with one of the deluxe models that could cost just a little additional money, you can be the judge of the extra outlay of additional funds. As time permits either today or tomorrow time permitting I will post all info so you will be able to make “THE VORTEX” ON YOUR OWN. President and CEO of “THE VORTEX” FellowShip [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] |
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This has to be a scam: two guys on a boat for five hours and only $1 spent?
proper hydration (even drinking domestics) costs more than that [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [ November 10, 2003, 09:32 PM: Message edited by: Mark ] |
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Ok,Ok ,I'll wait,Will this "VorteX" Work on the Horizontal Scuppers also ?Are there any STRINGs attatched ? Replacment ? I looked at some check valves but too big ,too heavy ! I think maybe a "BEER" fund may be in the works for testing & designing !
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Can one be made to fit my wife's mouth? [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]
I can just see the billboard now: Trouble watching the Football Game? Tired of mindless pillowtalk after sex? Annoyed by countless interruptions? Frustrated with honeydo lists while trying to read Florida Sportsman durinig dinner? Install Fellow-Ships "Vortex for women" [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] , you won't be dissappointed. Listen to satisfied fellow "Vortex" user "Jason*" after installing the "Vortex". "Wow, I couldn't believe it, after 12 years of constant earaches, now I finally have peace and quite in the house" I havn't heard a peep out of her in weeks." "Jason's* "friend" "John*" said "Jason*" has since lost 10 pounds and looks younger too! Try it today, it will improve your boating life! *names changed to protect the innocent. |
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Brian....you aint married!
Will the vortex work on Whalers? I have yet to own a SeaCraft but I like the idea of no water in the boat....although mine won't sink if it does come in. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] I wonder if the Vortex would be adaptable for my 27lb cat's ASS? [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img] |
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OK GUYS HERE WE GO
“THE VORTEX” Is a device that you insert into the top of the scupper that allows the water on the deck to drain out but prevents water from back flushing up and onto the deck of your boat. Plain and simple this is a low teck easy to make, easy to install and since it is removerable it is easy to clean. This is the device that will keep you feet dry and toasty which I know you guys up north will especially enjoy. “THE VORTEX” Works and Works great. Tools needed to make your own “VORTEX” 1. one 6 pack of beer. (this is both for the manufacturing procedure and for the celebration time taken on the water after you install your “VORTEX”. 2. you will need two straight PVC fittings ½ x ½” sprinkler system adapters. You want to get the male end threaded but and the female end the regular for pipe fitting look. The Home Depo # is 436-005 invoice # 012871626012 The cost of these fittings are .21 each total cost = .42 3. then you need to walk over to the kitchen sink sections and buy two o rings if you want the regular “VORTEX” but if you want to spring for the Deluxe “VORTEX” you want to buy four o rings. The size is 7/8 x ¾ x 1/16” model # 35744B and Home Depo invoice # is 037155357444 The cost of these o rings are .17 cents a piece or another additional .34 for the regular “VORTEX” or .68 for the Deluxe, but if you are on a budget you can use two rubber bands works just as good but will not last as long and are not very classy. 4. you will need either 10” of Stainless Steel thick wire (I used one old bicycle spoke they are stainless steel) or you can use approx 1’ of 60 to 100 lbs mono leader. 5. you will also need approx 6 “ of black electrical tape (oh buy the way if you cant find any rubber bands you can use approx 12” of tape for both gaskets instead of the o rings. Another approx .01 for the tape. There are two types of “THE VORTEX” that have been Bata tested, you will have to decide which one is right for you and collect the necessary hardware for either. The first type of “THE VORTEX” are the collapsible diaphragm “VORTEX” and the second is the flutter or flap valve “VORTEX” I will say both work equally well but the flap type will last longer because of the materials. The flap valve also provides a more appealing appearance but will take additional craftsmanship to make it. Lets start with the collapsible diaphragm “VORTEX” You can use either. 1. two balloons 2. two fingers of medium thick latex gloves. 3. or two Trojan condoms If you go with the plastic version you will need either 1. two 2 oz soft plastic cups. Or two small measuring plastic cups, or two very small dental cups or something like that. 2. or one 2 track tape box. You will want the soft plastic type. I will further explain the diaphragm and the flap valve as we continue into the manufacturing process of “THE VORTEX” Manufacturing Steps Of “THE VORTEX” The manufacturing process is so easy you hardly can believe it. Its quick, Its easy, It works great, Its cheep, and even you can make your own “VORTEX” 1. step one open one of those beers and slug it down to get you in the mood of “VORTEX” Manufacturing. 2. step two open up another beer for the process. 3. take the pvc adapter and measure ½” down from the female end mark with a felt pen and then take a hack saw and cut it off removing and barbs after the sawing process. 4. take a sip or two of beer #2 5. take a felt pen and mark two dots on opposite sides of the remanding portion of the female end. The dots should be approx 1/8 to ¼ “down the remanding female side then take another sip or two of beer. 6. take a 3/32 drill bit and drill two small holes in the dots. 7. take another sip. 8. take your wire and make a thumb pull device by bending a horse shoe looking loop in the wire attaching into the two holes. Or you can use mono leader and make your thump pull by tying knots our using crimps. 9. congratulations are in order, you have completed the majority of work needed too completing “THE VORTEX” HAVE ANOTHER SIP OR TWO. Directions and further explanations for the rubber collapsible diaphragm “VORTEX” 1. If you choose balloons you will need two medium to large size, thick balloon from the Dollar Store the throat is approx ¾ “ you will want to cut the tip of both balloons off so there is a approx 1” hole at the end. Then slide balloon onto the threades side of “THE VORTEX” take your tape and tape balloon onto “THE VORTEX” then slide one or two o rings over the balloon and up ‘THE VORTEX’ approx 1/3 to ½ up the shaft. 2. or if you choose the fingers from a latex glove cut the fingers out of your latex fiberglass glover. I have found that the 3 larger fingers are the best and you want to use the medium thick gloves. Do not use the extra thick yellow gloves they have some felt in the inside to make them easy to take off your hand but they hinder the collapsing process. I like the green latex gloves thick enough but easy to use. You will want to cut a longitudinal cut approx ¾ “ starting from the tip of the finger downward. Take finger insert it onto the male threaded side of ‘THE VORTEX” tape in place and again one or two o rings as stated in #1 3. now for the Trojan “VORTEX” I must say that the third choice is (defiantly the crowd pleaser ) but the rubber in it is not quite thick enough for lasting usage, but I promises you will get a days worth of pleasure out of them especially if you have a female first mate whose job is the insertion of the Trojan “VORTEX” into your scupper holes. Follow instructions on #1 of balloon diaphragms. The extra expense of the Trojan’s have not been calculated into overall cost. Now lets talk about the more rigid flap valve approach. If you go this way you will want to cut out the appearance like a golf ball sitting on top of a golfers tee out of the materials stated below. What you do is outline the ball part using a penny on the bottom close to the side wall of the cup and the tee on the side wall of the cup. 1. you can use a 2 oz soft sided cup like you get cold slaw or ketchup at a restaurant in. The top of the cup is larger that the bottom of the cup. You want the non brittle type plastic cups you can also use small measuring cups in cough medicine or little cups at the dentist office. What you are looking for a soft small cup that has a approx 70 degree angle from the bottom of the cup up the wall of the cup. In that way the round portion of the rigid flap valve stays open because of the memory in the plastic. That will allow water to go out quite easily and will flap shut with the pressure on water wanting to come up and in your boat. The thickness of the cup should be thin enough to permit the flap to work. These small cups and containers work very well and I prefer this one over all the rest. After marking the outline I used my Drummel with a sanding disk in it to carve out the plastic outline but I also have used a pair of scissors that works ok. Then tape the golfers tee onto the threaded side of “THE VORTEX” and then your o rings as before. 2. the other material you can use is a old box from a 2 track tape. Yes friends the box works great. Again cut the round ball out of the top of the box and the tee out of the folded side Oh buy the way the tee should be approx ¼ “ wide and approx ½ to 2/3” long. I am sure there are many other products that can be used and perhaps some of you will come up with some thing that is easy to get or work with. The key to using the plastic is the approx 25 to 30 degree angle from the bottom of the cup up the wall or the side of the cup which lets the flap stay open. Field testing “THE VORTEX” If you haven’t finished that second beer it’s time you did. It is now time for you to go out on the water and test “THE VORTEX” yourself. Take the other reminding beers get your boat plus “THE VORTEX” and splash her. Please remember to remove all debris and leaves from the inside of the boat put boat in water and then insert “THE VORTEX” . After you have tested for a while and with confidence say how great they work take the remaining beers out of the cooler and offer a toast to “THE VORTEX”. At the end of the day remove clean with fresh water and let dry. Do not let them stay is your scuppers for prolonged periods of time and never ever leave them in a boat that is unattended or on a boat that is left in water overnight. I would not want them to clog up with a leave and cause rain water not to have proper access to exit your deck. President and CEO of “THE VORTEX FellowShip [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] |
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COOL! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
I'm gonna start with the beer-sipping part right away: getting primed for the overall project so to speak [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [ November 12, 2003, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: Mark ] |
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FELLOW SHIP:
You need a digital camera... [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] |
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I got lost after the beer part.
Is this what you mean: http://www.tempoproducts.com/drainp.jpg Flapper Valve automatically drains water when boat is under way & provides a water-tight seal when boat slows or stops. Fits 1" diameter drains on boat transoms up to 2-1/4" thick. Made by Tempo |
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Hey Otto
""I only wish I could get my sales guys to be as articulate desribing our products..."" You don't give them enough BEER in between their sales pitch [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] or maybe you need to tack on a case as an incentive when purchasing the product [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] |
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Great Job Fellow-Ship [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
I think you ought to strap on a "Jews Harp" at the end of the flapper valve by Tempo---> then everytime the boat rocks forward it will play a Tune and Fart when it rocks aft!!!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] http://www.claytonbailey.com/jawcollect.htm [ November 12, 2003, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: capt chuck steele ] |
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Otto, being in sales, does the "Verbal VORTEX" seem right for my idea?
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HA EBEACH
I have used those Tempo one on the transom of another boat that I use to own but they will not work on the old SeaCrafts for a few reasons. First off, they aren’t long enough to go through the 6” hull scupper and the other reason is that the 30 + MPH of your boat running on a plane would probably pull them off. FellowShip [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img] |
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Fellowship,
Well done! I only wish I could get my sales guys to be as articulate desribing our products... |
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“VORTEX” Report
Well Saturday we went fishing off Miami in 4-6’ Seas coming out of the East. I had 3 full size guys on my 23 footer and 120 gal of gas. We DRIFTED 6 hrs fishing the kite and free lining live bait for what ever would happen to come by. I used the flap type “VORTEX” AND AM GLAD TO SAY NO WATER ON THE DECK. I pulled one “VORTEX” out just to confirm that water would come in with out their use and I got a fountain springing up, so I but “THE VORTEX” back in and scupper and kept everyone’s feed high and dry. Oh buy the way we cough two Sailfish one small one and one very big got spooled on another Sailfish we also got one Kingfish about 18 lbs. FellowShip [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] |
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excellent news! I believe this calls for another sip or two [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Hey Fellow-Ship ....PICTURES !!! you really need to get a picture posted of these different models of the "VORTEX" .... And we dont need to see any scupper holes [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] |
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I will try to take a couple of pictures and get them developed and then try to figure out how to post them. You guys got to remember that I am much better at low tec stuff then this high tec stuff. After all I am a Budweiser type of guy.
FellowShip [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img] |
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The vortex works on a 23. will it work on a 20?? some pictures would help
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fellowship,
Buy a cheapy kodak camera. When you get it developed, ask them to put the pictures on a c/d(the lab will do it for you at an extra cost of 5 ish dollars). then you can put c/d in your computer. works like a digital, you can enhance, crop, lighten and darken too. all the instructions come with the disk. its easy. |
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Grins & giggles for you digital camera phobes... You can pick up something cheap on Ebay, or look at something like a cheap refurbished for relatively short coin: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DX3215-R
Or new for $95 http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...7792&loc=13174 None of these are even close to high end but should be somewhat easy to use and damn near disposable if you drop it in the drink |
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Fellow Ship,
Dude , you got waaayyy too much time on your hands. ditto on the picture posting, I'm comletely lost. The mental picture I'm getting on the "Vortex" is geting confusing with all the baloons, condoms,gloves, pipe and O rings. I'm a touchy feely guy. I gotta see pics.. Good R&D!! Edison would be proud. |
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I had a girlfriend once that they called "vortex"...
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I will take a few pictures and try to post them this coming week.
FellowShip [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] |
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Went to Our local Wal-Mart Last Nite. 100 photo's from Your negatives made into a cd $3.84 Then mail it, e-mail it, Keep it forever !
Will this "VorteX" work on the Horizontal Drains ?20' MA. |
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Ha Capt. Brad
There are a number of good horizontal devices on the market that all work pretty good “THE VORTEX” was designed for the guys that have the vertical scuppers with water shooting up and onto the deck. Although they probably would work just as good as the rest of those devices on the market. I would say if you do try them in your horizontal scuppers that run through the transom of your boat please reframe from using the Trojan collapsible diaphragm ones. Most SeaCraft owners take pride in their project boats and I think that if people saw two Trojans hanging out your transom as you pull your boat up and out of the boat ramp area at your local marina it could present a image that would not truly represent the majority of us Classic SeaCraft boat lovers. FellowShip [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] |
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Oh buy the way I have taken some pictures of “THE VORTEX” and will finish up the role of film this weekend. Hopefully we will be able to post pictures this coming week some time.
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Wasn't there a story Way back about a trojan filled with lil men that jumped out ? Hmm I wonder if they where Seamen ?
Talk about trolling with those hang'n out the back end ! Blow fish & G Oh never mind. OK I'm back I was gett'n carried away. I placed the ball scuppers over mine then put the rubber scuppers over brass tubes thru the splashwell,Seems to help a lil' I just keep them plugged. |
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OK - I slacked - here are some pic Fellowship e-mailed me:
http://www.theboatzone.com/albums/fs01/res48568.jpg http://www.theboatzone.com/albums/fs01/res48569.jpg These were taken with his disposable "fish" camera |
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???????????????????????
I've always considered myself someone who can visualize 'a thing' when it is explained to me. For a $1,000,000 - I have no idea what this thing looks like. No idea how it works either. Can you help me out ? Thx, Alan |
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Ha Abl
You got to remember this is not space science this is a low tec $1.00 for both sides product. I thought my instructions were pretty good but if you have any questions let me know and I will fill you in. Basically you cut one piece of pvc take some tape and wrap the diaphragm or the finger of a glove on it, then slide a o ring over the top and have a pull ring to remove it from the top of your scupper hole at the end of the day. You just push it in and pull it out at the end of the day. That’s it, I think you forgot to first drink one beer before you got started. If you would have drank the beer you probably would have seen how to do this much quicker. These things realy work great I have been drifting in Seas up to 4'to 6' with no water coming in. Ha John thanks for posting the pictures for me did you get the one with the green glove finger?? FellowShip [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] |
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Ok, I re-read it again.
But first, I opened a beer and started to drink it - that was the missing part for me ! It is absolutely imperative that you drink a beer while reading the directions ! Now, I know how to make it - most versions of it too. Aaah, alcohol ! However, how does it work ? The plastic cup version: the "T" is taped to the vertical, bottom part of the male threads, the "golf ball" is bent over, partially covering the hole. This gets put into the scupper hole from the cockpit. So, if you were to step aft in the boat while she is not moving, the bent over "golfball" would act as a flap and cover the hole - not letting water in ????? The (2) track tape cover - no idea what you mean - should I drink vodka for that one ? Anyway, if that's it - it's great ! Is that it ? Oh, and what keeps the thing positively plugged into the scupper hole ? - Alan |
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RECALL NOTICE ################
HOME DEPOT STORE #1903 - MIAMI, FLORIDA IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION that the sight of men with condoms, bending over, going down on their cockpits installing the VORTEX has caused an increase in traffic on the ICW as scores of gay men follow Fellowship to the "inlet". This recall reccommends using 4 o-rings instead of only 2 and using a condom only once. Home Depot offers no warantee, express or implied, as to the suitability of this product for any intended purpose. [ December 09, 2003, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: Otto Cuyler ] |
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Ha Abe
You got it, it’s really simple, I told you that you needed a beer first. We are always wanting to make things harder than it really is. Perhaps if I made more moving parts every one would have got it on the first time, or said it will cost $10.00 a side guys would have bought into it quicker. As for your last question the o ring keeps it stuck in the scupper and will not come out with out pulling it up with the finger pull. Oh by the way you only need one o ring per side. FellowShip [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] |
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Ha Otto
I have already received a special Vortex condom testimonial form a fellow fisherman in Australia that if I have time I will post. FellowShip [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] |
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“CONDOM VORTEX SAVES MARRIAGE”
Good day mates, talking to ya from down under in kangaroo country here is Australia off the great barrier reef. I’ve been fishing down here for tuna for the last 20 years and have always had problems with water coming up through those deck scuppers and spout in water like a hump back for all these years. My wife use to go out with me on the tuna trips to help hall in the catch but that water on the deck finally finished it for her and she stopped going out with me. Well as time went on there was a few Sheath’s that would stop by the dock and kind a liked me and my boat, well since my wife stopped going I started inviting some of them on board for a day of fishing and well you know other extra activities when the fishin got kind a slow. Well as time went on my wife started getting suspicious of me not coming home as quickly, and fishing all the time so she decided to go one day on a tuna trip and that’s when it happened. I told her to go into the storage box in the leaning post seat and get me a can opener for a Fosters beer I was wanting to open, well she looked into the box and pulled out a condom. If we ware on land she would have done a walk about there and then but because we were 20 miles out she looked at me as to have me walk the plank when she said “WHET IS THIS”. Thanks to quick thinking and “THE VORTEX” I said, that’s my extra collapsible diaphragm for my Vortex and quickly open up the package and taped it on sticking it in the scupper, showing her how good it works. Well it worked great and she kind a believed me. I guess not enough evidence to sentence me to divorce. Any way she not goes fishing with me every time I go, she says because I fixed the water on the deck problem but I thing she didn’t really believe me. Thanks again C. Dundee [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] |
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should have said Sheila's
FellowShip |
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FS - can you resend the picks with the Army Issue Rubbers - could not find them (Yeh, Fellowship seems to like his condoms in Olive Drab - maybe he thinks the cammo will let him sneak in unnoticed and quiet like, hehehe) [ December 10, 2003, 11:45 AM: Message edited by: John R ] |
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I don't know about you guys, but if my wife finds a condom on (any of) my boats, you'd better have Fellowships WRITTEN INSTRUCTIONS taped to it or you'll be bidding on my 23CC on EBAY due to divorce...
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JUst got my material from HD, all I need is the cups now but its very simple, the # 436 005 makes it very simple to find the correct part. I had to get O rings 7/8 X 11/16 X 3/32 # 13's but they look like they will do fine. Film at 11 :D
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