Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

Hi guys,

Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on the possibility of putting twin 90 Fichts on either an armstrong or other flotation bracket on a 20' Master Angler.

I want this 20' that is here but already have a 90' ficht - and can get its twin for cheap!

Dont want a single = too risky here.

Many thanks

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

mkg you can hang the twins on there, there were 20 c.c."s factory rigged w/ twin 70hp. but you should consider the bracket and close the transom completely. The only problem is that it can get a little pricey

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

90 Fichts will weight a bit more than 70 carbed rudes from the 70s - one thing to consider. Item 2, the engines back then were flywheel rated and not propshaft so a 70 carb then was probably putting out 55-60 of todays HP... All that said a couple people have mentioned of a 20 with twin V6s somewhere in FL... - Twin 90s would go like a raped ape too,.,,

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

More than likely you will have to raise the transom by 5 inches if you go to twins. That will help keep some h2o out of the back. Hang them on then HANG ON!

PS. If you don't like the weight afterwords you can put a bracket on.

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

Thanks guys - i think i am going for the full flotation bracket and then with the twin fichts.

i will also cut out the well in the rear for some more space and enclose the transom if i dont get a hermco bracket

i am assuming the larger the brachet the more flotation etc?

Do the motors need to be counter rotating ?

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

Counter Rotating : YES ! [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

No other choice but counter rotating?

Can engines be modified to be counter rotating?

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

CR will make things easier, but you could get away without it with a pair of 90's, you'd just have additional torque steer to deal with. I believe you can convert one of the engines to CR, but it involves changing the lower unit = $$.

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

Thanks guys

I am awaiting a response from Hermco on the max weight the 20 could take with their bracket - any idea of whether the Armstrong can handle the 2 90'?

Many thanks

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

mkg Im sure armstrong has a bracket that will handle the twins probably the hermco will too I dont know how many of the guys in here from s.fla remember but there was a 20 with twin merc2.5 motors down in the homestead /keys area a couple years ago. So as long as you make the neccesary transom modification you should be fine

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

The Seamark bracket used for twin engines if I recall has something like 890 lbs of positive buoyancy .... but I also believe the bracket is also wider to accommodate the second engine... but I don’t know if that would be to wide for your application/boat

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

Yep That was the Mainstay of the Bahama runners way back ,twin 70's I would be concerned about the bracket then twins hangin on, lotta weight !,(20')
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Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

if you can get the twin for cheap, just get it as CR

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

Thanks guys - well the deal is now done

Bought a CSY built ( I know its not a potter but better than a tracker in my opinion) 1982 Master Angler.

Also bought the 2 x 90 Fichts and am now scoping out the bracket with the most flotation capacity.

Got a great deal on the boat - and a decent deal on the two motors.

Intend to mount a forward slanting Radar Arch on the boat in order to allow for a full enclosure in the winter and open in the summer - her in the Northwest when the sun is out you want it - when it rains you want cover so I want to go with this set up.

I want to copy it from the nicest 23' i have ever seen and one which you guys have also seen before.

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...82&slim=quick&

Its on Yachtworld - the 23 that is in West Vancouver.

Can this work on the master Angler?

Thanks - I will keep you guys posted as the boat progresses.

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

Sounds like you should give Don Herman (Seamark) a call. He's planning on putting the bracket on his 20'. I'm not sure about twin's.

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

If your worried about breaking down with a single engine then I would install a kicker engine on it. I run a V-6 Evinrude on my 20 ft seacraft. I made my transome 25" and its the best thing I did. I would not want to see twin V-4s on this boat. Even with a full transome and bracket. From what I have seen I would not run a single 90 on this rig. A 115 would do fine. A 150 would be even better. I would make the transome 25 inch, run a 115 or 150 Di, Opti or HPDI engine and install a 9.9 or 15 4 stroke on a kicker bracket, just incase something happens to the main engine. This is just my 2 cents.

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

That forward facing arch looks nice but it essentially shuts down fishing and negates the center console and might as well gat a cabin (in my opinion). If you really want to fish get a T-Top and a full/extended enclosure / bow dodger. If you want to CAST, some people make a shortened T-Top that reduces the amount of space taken...

Hey Don Battin - is it possible/worth it to shorten a stainless steel top?

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wasnt that boat at one time in the mid 70's ... boy talk about inflation !!!!!!!

The Arch thing .... For a 20' boat it might be a bit much .... Plus as John says you lose the benefit of a center console fish boat .... but to each his own.... I doubt that 23 has seen any blood on its teak decks and covering boards .... well maybe the owners due to his wife beating him for spending so much on that restore [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: Twins on a 20' Master Angler
 

That 23 will end up being a tender on some guy's 125' yacht, that's all.

MKG,
I fished on a 32' Intrepid CC with a full arch in August and it was a pain in the neck getting around it with a fishing rod. If you're not into fishing, you'll be fine, but I wouldn't recommend it for a fishing setup. Even if you only troll or bounce jigs, trying to work a fish around the arch can be tricky. IMO it may also make a 20' look a little top heavy. I'd go with the setup that John recommends.