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martin 09-24-2012 08:37 PM

Molding clay
 
Can anyone tell me if you have usesd clay from local hobby shops .. Was wondering if i can get something that will work locally for molds.. Or do u recomend the mold clay fiberglass co sell..materials will be here tues so i will be building decks soon.. Thanks martin

Blue_Heron 09-25-2012 06:04 AM

Hobby shop clay works as long as you don't get the kind that hardens when you bake it. It can be hard to find the old style oil based clay, but it works just fine. Make sure to get good coverage over the clay with your PVA or the oil in the clay will cause your gelcoat to alligator.
Dave

strick 09-25-2012 07:01 AM

I like Permoplast clay.

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/aac/aac90055f.htm

strick

martin 09-25-2012 07:52 PM

Thanks guys...

martin 09-26-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strick (Post 207899)
I like Permoplast clay.

http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/aac/aac90055f.htm

strick

What is the temp rating of this stuff thanks MJ

strick 09-27-2012 08:18 AM

temp rating for what?

strick

martin 09-28-2012 09:24 PM

Clay
 
Of the clay.. Or am i digging to deep for info . Trying to find an equivelant .. I have some @150f... Wondering if it is the same

strick 09-28-2012 11:28 PM

I'm not that much into it. I'll take a look at the box to see if there is a temp rating. I just put it on the mold and glass over it :)

strick

Blue_Heron 09-29-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martin (Post 207977)
.. I have some @150f...

If it has a temperature rating on it, it's probably of the polymer thermoset type I was talking about. You want the oil based stuff that doesn't set when you bake it. The thermoset stuff will work, but the oil based clays are a lot easier to work with.
Dave

mnwnvc 09-29-2012 05:06 PM

I have been told that you should use a low sulphur clay when making silicone molds. Do not know if there is any reason to apply this advice to epoxy or glass. Sulphur in the clay can effect curing of silicone.

3rdday 09-29-2012 05:53 PM

Yes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mnwnvc (Post 207995)
I have been told that you should use a low sulphur clay when making silicone molds. Do not know if there is any reason to apply this advice to epoxy or glass. Sulphur in the clay can effect curing of silicone.

On the right track, it should be a NO sulpher, especially if using a polyaddition/platinum cured silicone. It will definitely cause cure inhibition and you will havea sticky freaking mess, and nothing will solvate unreacted silicone. Isopropyl alchohol will help with wiping up the mess but you will have to use many cloths, papertowels, wipe once discard, repeat, repeat, repeat. if you do not you will just transfer to many other places and you will not get rid of it. if it ever ends up on a surface to be painted or gelcoated, you will have an adhesion issue.

Klean Klay is a commonly used clay which contains no sulpher.

strick 09-29-2012 07:42 PM

No temp rating on the box. As mentioned previously it's a non hardening clay. I get it from Composites One.

strick

martin 09-30-2012 11:13 AM

Thanks guys ... Appreciate the advice.. Starting the decks this week..


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