How did you get your fuel fill hose out?
 

Help!!!

Foamed in.

Cheers,
You know who

Some one told me it will come out if you blow in it! :D

I have never tried this on a fuel hose but it is an idea:
Get some flexible PVC spa pipe a little larger in ID than your fuel hose OD - 4' long or so. Glue a PVC slip-slip union on the end. Cut coarse teeth in the end of the union - you are making a long, flexible hole saw with plastic teeth but foam is usually pretty soft. Slide it over hose and cut as far as you can from either end by twisting the tube - you will probably need to put wire pulling lube inside the spa pipe. You will still end up with Popeye arms though.

This is how I have done fuel hoses that were not foamed (much):
Before you pull the old hose out use, use a barbed PVC union fitting to connect it to the new hose on the fill end. Use 3-4 pan head screws on each side of the union, screwed through the hose into the union to hold the hose on. This is smaller than hose clamps. Use a wire pull to put a heavy cord down the ID all the way through - this is your back-up. Push the new hose from the outside and pull the old hose from the inside.

You will need several drinks when you are done because your muscles will be screaming...

I drilled through about an inch from the end and attached a shackel to a come along and winched it out.

Redneck inginuity.

It worked is all can say.

Come to think about it I had to pull the new hose back in the same way.
Something about that turn from the floor into the side.

It was not a fun job.

Lube it then yank it dude.

It's truly a PITA. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Jokes are always welcome.

Drty and Flex thanks.

What about cutting a a pie hole in the gunwhale and blasting the foam w a pressure washer? I need more beer. Damn fill fitting wont lift for squat.

Keep em coming gang.

Cut the new hose w a cut off wheel?

Last spring it was the F`en TnT rebuild.

Cheers,
Potty Mouth

If you are gonna just yank it, then run a chain down the ID to an eyebolt stuck through a steel pipe cap that fits over the hose end on the inside. Mix in an A-frame and a chain hoist and hope nothing else gets ripped out with it. Something will give but it might pick the hull up a bit first so be careful. Tie a string to it before you pull it so you can get the new one in easier.

I have access to an elegant Yale forklift. She can lift 1600 lb rolls of cahhhpet, so I have the powah. Now I need to find a brain.

Is there such a thing as a flexible tip for a pressure washer? Since foam is the enemy, this is where I am focusing my thought.

Maybe u could spray a chemical on the foam to dissolve it away from the hose

The grey bilge cote still is mostly there, so I think some more.
Dangerous as always. Be a small miracle if I don't blow myself to Pluto.

Cheers,
GFS

Urethane expanding foam is more chemical resistant than many foams. I think a pressure washer would work wonders.

Those of you that were around back when (03)....... remember Lt Dan used a chain saw...:eek:

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Me too. Identify the problem. Think. Share.

Thanks,
GFS

In my 20 MA, a lot of foam disappeared under the assault of even a 120V powered 1500 PSI pressure washer.

A 20" long air nozzle slid along the outside of the hose might peel it away from the foam, too. Harbah Freight Specials are wicked pissah.

Our neighbahh at work has 2800 psi, but the rub is I have no time with her. That will change. Soon.

Go Sawx.

I think the routing is different on my 18 but when I replaced mine it wouldn't budge either. There wasn't any foam but a sharp bend kept me from pulling it straight out. Solution was a large pair of channel locks used to twist the hose while pulling it out. It was a bear. I rerouted the new one on installation. Doing this might break the hose loose from the foam.
If it come out, the hole in the foam will need to be enlarged to make it easy to get the new one in. Maybe a drill operated drain snake with some kind of cutter rigged on the end. Maybe some aggressive sand paper wrapped on the end??
A vacuum cleaner with a small enough hose to put in with the snake and suck out the trimmings.
You won't be able to have that pull rope in there when your doing all of this but you could most likely pull one through with that vacuum.

Channel Locks? Check.
Thanks for all the thoughts and help gang.
Hey, at least the tank just got 40 fresh gals of rec 90. I`ll take pics. Hopefully, they won`t be at cruising altitude.

What about drilling a hole in the fill cap
and using a lifting eye?

GFS,

This may be a dumb idea but here goes, with the intent of breaking the bond between the hose and foam. Insert a round wood plug into the hose as close as possible to where the hose begins to be imbedded in the foam, then clamp a long pipe wrench over the hose/wood plug area and use torque/twisting of the hose to break the bond.

Hoping you find a method that works soon; good luck.

The hose OD is usually larger than the hole for the fill fitting so this might not work fer ya. :(

If you can plug both ends, collapse it with vacuum to break it apart from the foam

I think most fill hoses have a spiral of wire - mine did - that will keep it from collapsing with a vacuum. But it opens up an idea - if you pull the wire out it may make the hose more flexible and collapsible. That might free it up from the foam a bit.

How do they put it together? Fill goes on before liner goes in? Why yes Sandy, they do.

Thought I was onto something...

The outrigger pad is pretty close. Maybe a sneak attack position.

That fill hose ain`t cheap.

The wire in the hose usually corrodes but as a last resort, who knows. Looks a tad large and
lumpy by the tank

The vent is right next door and also has me wondering.
Well, the pressure washer is waiting for me in the morning. The plastic barrel will house my new fuel. I will then run the water hose in the tank for a good bit. Take a smoke break.
Boom. Edit that. I can smell the fumes on the sidewalk 10 ft. away.

If I were a smart man, I would rewire the house now, but as evidenced by the last time I had the coffin hatch out, I clearly am not a smart man. Right before my first gathering some seven years ago now.

Thanks All.

When I pulled the tank on my 18' SF I ended up cutting into the glass with a hole saw and using various blades to cut the hose free.

Wait... I then took a jig saw and connected all my holes. Then still had a heck of a time. It was the single hardest part about replacing my tank.

I then glassed it back together. But the PO had built the casting step into a flush front deck so cosmetic imperfections of the glass repair were not an issue as they are covered.

I think at very modest vacuum, like shop-vac level vacuum, you are right. But if some boat builder has a real vacuum pump, then 15 PSI x all those inches of hose area should buckle it at a bend and continue collapsing from there, I would think.

A tank won't take any real vacuum, so the hose doesn't need to be engineered to either.

*I think*

The fill hose has a helical wire inside it. Hard to imagine a vacuum collapsing it. We would need an engineer to determine if it is possible. Hmmm, any engineers around here? :)

Don's right, those fill hoses have significant wire reinforcement built into the walls of the hose, plus a round hose shape naturally has a significant amount of hoop strength in compression as well. Even if you could pull a perfect vacuum on it, I don't think a mere 14.7 psi of compressive pressure would even faze it!

I was looking at hose @ BOW today. I think you would need a vice to collapse it.
It was laughing at me.

I'm surprised the hose does not collapse under the weight of the amount of money it costs!!!!! :)

Just rip it out of there and be done with it lol

we should re name this thread "how many engineers does it take to remove a old worn out fuel hose"

Sandy- a reciprocating saw is your friend if surgery is needed :)

Strick

I`m thinking an air powered cut off wheel would be better for me Doc. Spent most of the day just thinking, looking, and sourcing. I am taking the week off and hoping to rewire the house and do the tank at the same time. GM was not happy... Pros and cons of poly vs alum tank. The new crosslink nylon tanks worth a damn??? Why do I always overthink things???

Hermco said it best. Your old primed aluminum foamed in tank lasted 25 years. How old will you live to be? Will you have this boat that long? My guy does real nice coal tar epoxy work. Here is the name of the shop. 75 clams. Thanks Don.

Thanks BW for the fuel pump.

How many psychologists does it take to fix GFS?
Only one, but we have yet to find

The slight delam on the port stringer when I last had the coffin open repair looks great after
seven years. The bad news is forward of that repair is the same to just shy of the coffin.
Just like before. Top layer of woven. So now the plate gets taller. Quick fix there at least.

I had just graduated to epoxy.
I have gloves now.

Cheers,
GFS

Of course I now want to put dowels in the deck under the console. Keep her solid.

Thanks for all the input gang.

"How many psychologists does it take to fix GFS?
Only one, but we have yet to find"

WOW, I don't think Albert Einstein could answer that!!! That's a tough one, let me get another scotch and think this over!!

Some were really fun and some retired. Still here.

Nice week coming up.

Cheers,
Us