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Finnatic 06-05-2016 08:50 PM

A few questions
 
Hello all it's been a while that I've posted anything and have a few questions. I have a project boat to do with my son. It's a 1972 206 CC. I've had the boat for 3 years now and have it completely striped down ready for the nasty work. I'm freeing up some time these days and want to remove the entire deck and transom. I want to raise the deck to make it self bail also want to raise the transom to accommodate the newer 25" shaft motors. Is 4 inches enough to raise the deck to install scuppers ? Also is 5 inches the amount needed to raise the transom, it's my understanding they ran motors with a 20 inch shaft back in the day. Thanks in advance.

NoBones 06-05-2016 08:53 PM

72 should be 19' 6"

Raise deck 2 inches
Raise transom 5 inches

Case closed !

Good luck, have fun...;)

Finnatic 06-05-2016 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 244330)
72 should be 19' 6"

Raise deck 2 inches
Raise transom 5 inches

Case closed !

Good luck, have fun...;)

Thanks NoBones, I didn't thing 2" would be enough, I'm sure you guys know. Not sure about 19'6" the registration states 20'6" as did the last owner.

gofastsandman 06-05-2016 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 244330)
72 should be 19' 6"

Raise deck 2 inches
Raise transom 5 inches

Case closed !

Good luck, have fun...;)

Lightstream

Terry England 06-05-2016 10:02 PM

Questionnaire -
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnatic (Post 244331)
Thanks NoBones, I didn't thing 2" would be enough, I'm sure you guys know. Not sure about 19'6" the registration states 20'6" as did the last owner.

2" will probably be fine if you are powering with 140 HP or less 4 S or 150 HP or less 2 S. The 20' boats were designed for 75-115 HP 2 S's - they do fine with a 115. What motor are you planning to hang on it and what do you use the boat for? What is your typical load and your typical daily run?

We need to develop a check off list like -
I. Boat length (please check one) -
1) 15' Scampi
2) 19' Bowrider
3) 20' CC
4) 20' Seafari
5) 23 CC
6) 23 Sceptre/Tsunami
7) 25 SeaFari
8) 27 Seamaster
9) 27 Raceboat
II. Power (please check one)
1) 75- 90 hp 2S / 4S
2) 100-115 hp 2S / 4S
3) 130-150 hp 2S / 4S
4) 150-225 hp 2S
5) 150 - 200 hp 4S
6) 225 - 300 hp 2S
7) 225 - 300 hp 4S
8) Twins - please specify________
9) 240 Bridgeport
10) Rolls-Merlin Go-Devil
11) Quad Bearcats
III. Typical Load / Windage -
1) Tee Top
2) Tee top with electronics box
3) Hardtop
4) Tower
5) Bikini tops - yes / no
6) Fishing gear
7) Dive gear
8) Beer (rounded off to the nearest case)
9) Persons(*) on board
(*) including mother-in-laws
IV. Boat use -
1) Fishing
2) Diving
3) Cocktail cruiser
4) Camping / Cruising
5) Racing
6) Sandbar Party Classic Chick Magnet
7) Tax write off through shell company (i.e. "Trolling Gear Research,
Assessment and Analysis LLC.")

The answer to these questions will help us here at Classic Seacraft provide the best suggestions and route for your well planned endeavors to resurrect the this Classic.

NoBones 06-06-2016 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry England (Post 244334)
2" will probably be fine if you are powering with 140 HP or less 4 S or 150 HP or less 2 S. The 20' boats were designed for 75-115 HP 2 S's - they do fine with a 115. What motor are you planning to hang on it and what do you use the boat for? What is your typical load and your typical daily run?

We need to develop a check off list like -
I. Boat length (please check one) -
1) 15' Scampi
2) 19' Bowrider
3) 20' CC
4) 20' Seafari
5) 23 CC
6) 23 Sceptre/Tsunami
7) 25 SeaFari
8) 27 Seamaster
9) 27 Raceboat
II. Power (please check one)
1) 75- 90 hp 2S / 4S
2) 100-115 hp 2S / 4S
3) 130-150 hp 2S / 4S
4) 150-225 hp 2S
5) 150 - 200 hp 4S
6) 225 - 300 hp 2S
7) 225 - 300 hp 4S
8) Twins - please specify________
9) 240 Bridgeport
10) Rolls-Merlin Go-Devil
11) Quad Bearcats
III. Typical Load / Windage -
1) Tee Top
2) Tee top with electronics box
3) Hardtop
4) Tower
5) Bikini tops - yes / no
6) Fishing gear
7) Dive gear
8) Beer (rounded off to the nearest case)
9) Persons(*) on board
(*) including mother-in-laws
IV. Boat use -
1) Fishing
2) Diving
3) Cocktail cruiser
4) Camping / Cruising
5) Racing
6) Sandbar Party Classic Chick Magnet
7) Tax write off through shell company (i.e. "Trolling Gear Research,
Assessment and Analysis LLC.")

The answer to these questions will help us here at Classic Seacraft provide the best suggestions and route for your well planned endeavors to resurrect the this Classic.

Jiminy Christmas Marshtackie......:rolleyes:

Did you start early today with the buy one get one..:eek:

AKA: BOGO

I know Walgreens was running a special, but jeesh...:D

You made me half looped just tryin' to read your response..;)

Terry England 06-06-2016 05:44 PM

Complete Data, Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 244344)
Jiminy Christmas Marshtackie......:rolleyes:

"Just the facts Ma'am",
Signed, Joe Friday

CHANCE1234 06-06-2016 09:52 PM

Do yourself a favor and raise the transom to 27 inches. 25" shaft will still fit. Wish I made mine that height. If for some reason when you hang the motor you find its two high just trim it down. My suzuki140 is as high as I can get it and it could probably go up another hole if I had the room to do it.

Islandtrader 06-07-2016 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry England (Post 244334)

We need to develop a check off list like -
I. Boat length (please check one) -
1) 15' Scampi
2) 19' Bowrider
3) 20' CC
4) 20' Seafari
5) 23 CC
6) 23 Sceptre/Tsunami
7) 25 SeaFari
8) 27 Seamaster
9) 27 Raceboat
.

Do you have something against the "Original" 21':eek:

Terry England 06-07-2016 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Islandtrader (Post 244381)
Do you have something against the "Original" 21':eek:

T-3 is very old and forgetful. I started taking Prevagen, you know the stuff made with jellyfish - Now all it think about is Plankton!!
My apologies T-1
Finnatic says he has a 20"-6', maybe it's really one of the of the last 21's. (Well, other than that one we know is in the basement of the CIA)

DonV 06-07-2016 03:27 PM

Wow a twenty inch - six footer is a strange SeaCraft in my book!!! One of those boats for midgets, whoops I've gotta be more PC, small people!! Sorry T-3, was too easy to let pass! :)

Terry England 06-07-2016 04:59 PM

Feet, then Inches
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonV (Post 244388)
Wow a twenty inch - six footer is a strange SeaCraft in my book!!! One of those boats for midgets, whoops I've gotta be more PC, small people!! Sorry T-3, was too easy to let pass! :)

'Twas a typo. I'll blame the fiberglass shard in my typing finger. Feet first, then inches - any contractor knows that, even one with the oldest GC license in Pinellas County (C-196).

FLexpat 06-07-2016 06:07 PM

T-3:
Gimbal bearings?
Transmissions/gearboxes?
18'?

contemplate phosphorescent plankton - works at night too.

Finnatic: I would do 31" and use a 30" shaft

Finnatic 06-08-2016 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry England (Post 244383)
T-3 is very old and forgetful. I started taking Prevagen, you know the stuff made with jellyfish - Now all it think about is Plankton!!
My apologies T-1
Finnatic says he has a 20"-6', maybe it's really one of the of the last 21's. (Well, other than that one we know is in the basement of the CIA)

Okay I stand corrected it's a 1974 20' CC. A case of CRS can't remember sh!t. Sorry about that.

Finnatic 06-08-2016 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoBones (Post 244344)
Jiminy Christmas Marshtackie......:rolleyes:

Did you start early today with the buy one get one..:eek:

AKA: BOGO

I know Walgreens was running a special, but jeesh...:D

You made me half looped just tryin' to read your response..;)

I would like to power with a 150 4 stroke. I never had the boat in the water so can only guess at the water line from the old bottom paint line. I will use the boat in Long Island sound, these boats are great for the wash board conditions we frequently see. I run twin 150's on my 2360 I like to get to my fishing grounds asap weather permitting. It's my understanding this hull design was used when Sailfish boats came to be. My 2360 Sailfish hull looks very similar to my Sea Craft hull.

Terry England 06-08-2016 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnatic (Post 244440)
I would like to power with a 150 4 stroke. I never had the boat in the water so can only guess at the water line from the old bottom paint line. I will use the boat in Long Island sound, these boats are great for the wash board conditions we frequently see. I run twin 150's on my 2360 I like to get to my fishing grounds asap weather permitting. It's my understanding this hull design was used when Sailfish boats came to be. My 2360 Sailfish hull looks very similar to my Sea Craft hull.

Finatic,
Based on that data Captain, I would concour with No Bones post #2 (if you're not putting a bait well behind the seat) Good luck - send pictures.

Bushwacker 06-08-2016 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnatic (Post 244440)
I would like to power with a 150 4 stroke. . .

These boats were designed for motors of 300 lbs or less, so if you're gonna hang almost 500 lbs on the transom, you're gonna have to move a lot of weight forward to keep from screwing up the CG and hurting the ride & low speed planing capability! It would be easier to balance with a DI 2-stroke, which will also have more mid-range torque for getting on plane with a heavy load.

Finnatic 06-09-2016 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushwacker (Post 244444)
These boats were designed for motors of 300 lbs or less, so if you're gonna hang almost 500 lbs on the transom, you're gonna have to move a lot of weight forward to keep from screwing up the CG and hurting the ride & low speed planing capability! It would be easier to balance with a DI 2-stroke, which will also have more mid-range torque for getting on plane with a heavy load.

I was not sure about the weight. I don't want to start shifting weight or change the performance of the boat. I'll keep the 300 lbs in mind when looking for power. Thank's

Terry England 06-09-2016 08:38 PM

Sailfish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnatic (Post 244440)
....... My 2360 Sailfish hull looks very similar to my Sea Craft hull.

Finnatic,
Snookerd once told me that it was actually a 21 Sailfish that beat the 21 Alim in the CIA sea trials for the Bay of Pigs invasion boat in 1961. Carl bought one and copied the hull shape of the VDH hull and went on to win some boat races or something and the rest is history.
Anyway, I understand Snookerd is saving up his weekly allowance for a Sailfish because he wants "an original" to bolt that new 300 Zukie to! Then he'll have a great Sarasota dive boat and he'll be set for life. One needs goals in life.

gofastsandman 06-09-2016 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Islandtrader (Post 244381)
Do you have something against the "Original" 21':eek:

I think I see a vacation in SE Asia in your future.

Shipping containers full of contraband hulls.

Cheers,
GFS

Finnatic 06-09-2016 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry England (Post 244464)
Finnatic,
Snookerd once told me that it was actually a 21 Sailfish that beat the 21 Alim in the CIA sea trials for the Bay of Pigs invasion boat in 1961. Carl bought one and copied the hull shape of the VDH hull and went on to win some boat races or something and the rest is history.
Anyway, I understand Snookerd is saving up his weekly allowance for a Sailfish because he wants "an original" to bolt that new 300 Zukie to! Then he'll have a great Sarasota dive boat and he'll be set for life. One needs goals in life.

I may be new to the forum,,, but not to breaking ba11s I thing a cold breeze just passed through Fla. with this post.


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