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dirtwheelsfl 06-24-2019 06:33 PM

19 sternrider
 
Came across this beaut last weekend. Its a 67, number 356. Pics dont do justice to how bad of shape the liner and cap and everything is in, if she was in better shape in that regard i wouldnt be gutting her...... But were going down to hullskin and stringers.

Plan is raise stringers quite a bit, shove fuel forward, big in deck livewell behind fuel, decent sized front and rear decks connected with walkaround gunnels, full rear bulkhead and partial front, and a small side console with a grabrail and some instruments.

Power will be an inline 3 G2... with a tiller (hence sternrider)


If anyone wants anything off her besides the teak anchor locker door lemme know! Merc is a 2.5 200, feels good on a hand spin. Leg spins nicely.

Adventurous extraction:

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I didnt catch her name but she liked it!

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erebus 06-24-2019 06:43 PM

Oh man, please photo-document this build in your usual excruciating detail.
I love following along to your work.
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(mostly because I'm jealous of your mad skillz...)

JBASS02 06-25-2019 12:15 PM

Her older sister is for sale in SoCal.
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sf...909345530.html

fishingproblem 06-25-2019 02:02 PM

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Nice find dirt, I too am looking forward with excitement on this new project of yours. I think those Moesly bowriders are worthy of more respect with the 4 stringer set up and the holy grail VDR.

I went to look at 'her sister' in West Hills and left her there.

I was not familiar with the bowrider and did a few hours of research before making the 5 hour trip. I was thinking it would be a great bay boat and near shore fisherman. Or raise the floor etc. Unfortunately, or not, the trailer was not road worthy and the hull bottom would likely need a flip over to make it right. The eye for the winch is also loose. It is sitting on the trailer wrong too likely because it was pushed up to drain. It was too much for me and left a little sad and hopeful that someone will restore it.

dirtwheelsfl 06-25-2019 07:54 PM

Will do Zach!


I saw that one in cali on a web search... !PAGING STRICK!

Mines definitely gonna have to be flipped, port side has some pretty good step damage and a weird hook going on. Shes coming apart easy though. Any spot with a core is non existent, liners cracked all over, rivets barely hanging on etc.

Totally agree on the 4 stringer boats. They just seem better built. Lots of stuff tabbed together on this one. I think theyre better for rebuilding as far as layout and rigging go too. This 19 has a bit more width between the 2 inside stringers than the 20 also so that gives a lil more freedom with premade tank selection.

dirtwheelsfl 07-03-2019 12:22 PM

Well with the combo of the stringers going in on a monday or friday, and some shoddy repair work, the whole grid is coming out.

At some point someone had her apart and tried to fix some things, during which they used a jigsaw and sliced the stringers in a bunch of spots. They managed to slop a bunch of heavy roving in along with screwing and bedding the deck back down with some caulk on top of the original "moesly putty". Owner said he "hit a submerged object"...

The original tabbing is broken and loose in lots of spots, and most wasnt wet out very well.

Termites made the rest of demo ezpz. The best wood i found was right near the drain plug, saltwater preservation maybe ??


Mucho tierra to play with!

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Damage....

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"Repair" from the inside...

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You can see a couple jigsaw cuts here, others are almost full depth.

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Gotta love fixing other peoples shit!

Stringer height will be about doubled anyway, not a biggie to do all new. Wasnt expecting it to look much better under there...

gofastsandman 07-03-2019 07:33 PM

Holy butcher of Paul Bocuse. Lotta white glass there.

My 20 was made in November.

Terry England 07-04-2019 11:02 AM

Moesly 19
 
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Dirt, I think the chines on the 19s are a little softer on the edges than the 20s. You might think about spray rails, especially with a side console. Speaking from experience

dirtwheelsfl 07-05-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry England (Post 264251)
Dirt, I think the chines on the 19s are a little softer on the edges than the 20s. You might think about spray rails, especially with a side console. Speaking from experience

For sure, the 20s have a tiny bit of reverse in the chine. Im either gonna glass some rails on or build up a downturn in the chine, or a combo of both. Love that rig of yours by the way...

dirtwheelsfl 07-07-2019 05:28 PM

Great lines on this hull

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dirtwheelsfl 07-19-2019 08:32 PM

Got the transom in before the rest of demo. Really tried to save outer skin but it was pretty shot. Owner wasnt kidding when he said he hit something!

Plan is to screw some mdf panels underneath the 2 inside panels to pull everything back true and fair, and give a form for the glass to get the step back how its supposed to be.

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Gonna get that section done before moving on to more repair in the bow...

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flyingfrizzle 07-21-2019 01:51 PM

Wow. That one is going to need some TLC. There is no doubt you will have her ship shape in no time though.

dirtwheelsfl 07-21-2019 07:02 PM

TLC is right... Knew i overpaid!

The mdf worked out great and pulled it all back into shape. Used some spray foam to fill some gaps on the inside then shaped it. Left the step a tad tall and proud on the inside of the hull so the glass going on the outside will have a lil more depth to get a buildup on.

2 layers of 1603 over everything then a couple more overlapping the steps.

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Time for hole 2 now. Used some foam instead of mdf to suck up against that curve...

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flyingfrizzle 07-23-2019 07:48 AM

Looks like your well on your way,


The older Moesly hulls have a certain cool factor about them. She will be nice once complete. History preserved

dirtwheelsfl 08-02-2019 07:24 PM

Musta chiseled and grinded 50# of putty and crappy glass outta this thing. All downhill from here :)

Couple layers of biax throughout, extra on the steps. Keel got quite a bit of some heavier stuff. Chines will get some after i pull temporary screws for spray rail out...

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My new laser toy made quick work of stringer height

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2" h45 core

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3x1700 and an 1808 cap

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2 mains will go in first then the outers...

DonV 08-02-2019 08:03 PM

Now that laser gizmo is an unfair advantage against us rednecks!! :)

crsavage1 08-03-2019 12:13 AM

This is awesome as it is the same as mine. I will never keep up with you but at least I can watch what you do and try to mimic. I noticed in one picture yours had the same “mound” over the keel that mine has. It appears as though you ground yours out, was that wood under there? Maybe I am not making sense but I will take a picture of mine to make sense but just curious if it’s purpose other than probably just strength.

dirtwheelsfl 08-03-2019 10:31 AM

Ill tell ya this Don, its still not as fun as a water level!

Savage, yea there was a length of plywood running down the keel with a layer of roving over it. In my case it was termites mulch and cockroaches. They even had some visegrips stuck in a pool of resin from when they tried the repair section. Theres also a hump going side to side separating motor and tank areas, which was part of the grid where a bulkhead was that got cut down. Under that was about an inch of putty and resin. I chiseled/peeled ground all that crap out and put some 36oz uni down first then a 1700 then an 1808. Had some resin left over so put another lam down the “beaching area” in the bow.

dirtwheelsfl 08-23-2019 06:24 PM

Bulk of the stringers are in. Still have some shorties to go in the stern from bulkhead to transom. The grid will make more sense as bulkheads get put in...

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Got some spray rails glued on, will get shaped and glassed when shes upside down. Theyre 12'6" https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...fdddf41c_c.jpgUntitled by dirtwheelsfl, on Flickr

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Standard 2" crown on transom. Nobody like a flat ass! But they do like nice holes

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Cut her at 26.5"

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hillcharl 08-24-2019 01:28 PM

Man, this is an awesome build. Keep up the good work!

Capt Terry 08-24-2019 04:51 PM

The Art and Skill of Dirtwheels
 
Yah, I have had the pleasure of personally seeing Chris’s projects in various stages. He is incredibly talented!!

gofastsandman 08-25-2019 09:08 PM

He could start his own SC boat building company.

strick 08-27-2019 10:57 AM

Watching your work is very inspiring....Thanks for all the detailed pictures..I may need some advice in a few months...

strick

flyingfrizzle 08-28-2019 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by strick (Post 265142)
I may need some advice in a few months...

strick



Back at it again? Maybe in a few months?

dirtwheelsfl 08-28-2019 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strick (Post 265142)
Watching your work is very inspiring....Thanks for all the detailed pictures..I may need some advice in a few months...

strick

Did ya snag that one out in cali?!

strick 08-30-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtwheelsfl (Post 265184)
Did ya snag that one out in cali?!

Bigshrimpin and I are working on a trade...he has a MA and I have a 23 Tsunami...looking forward to doing another boat...wish my wife was as excited as I am lol

strick

gofastsandman 08-30-2019 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strick (Post 265211)
Bigshrimpin and I are working on a trade...he has a MA and I have a 23 Tsunami...looking forward to doing another boat...wish my wife was as excited as I am lol

strick


I think Lisa likes boats as much as you do Doc.

dirtwheelsfl 08-31-2019 08:39 PM

The trick is to get it home before you even mention it to em! ;)

strick 09-01-2019 02:14 PM

She has her little Hobie kayak that she's been having fun with...keeps asking when were going out on the little 20 sceptre..almost went out this weekend but tides were wrong for treasure hunting (need low early tides before all the crazies are out). She calls herself a "boat widow" when I'm busy with working on a boat.

dirtwheelsfl_ I hope you don't mind a few PM's down the road with questions as your restores are the best I've seen on this forum.

strick

dirtwheelsfl 10-21-2019 07:26 PM

Strick i sent ya a pm awhile back, lemme know if ya got it!


Were moving along pretty swimmingly here. Fore and aft will have full height decks. Just aft of front bulkhead is freshwater, then fuel--livewell--and 2 compartment bilge which will have an in-deck hatch in the front and a sporty mez style L shaped hatch on the bench/bulkhead. Front bulkhead hatch(es?) undecided. Need to get all the crap outta there one of these days and take a decent pic!

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60 gal of fuel

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Blackfin26 10-21-2019 09:12 PM

Wow. Appears to be next level work to my untrained eye. And I really like the tiller plan. Cuts down on a lot of cost and less stuff to break down. Thanks for posting and look forward to the progress and product.

dirtwheelsfl 10-22-2019 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackfin26 (Post 265724)
Wow. Appears to be next level work to my untrained eye. And I really like the tiller plan. Cuts down on a lot of cost and less stuff to break down. Thanks for posting and look forward to the progress and product.

Unfortunately the tiller plan had to be axed :(. It wouldve eaten too much of the rear deck up with a big notch. Also it seems to be cheaper just to use a normal hydraulic helm with the new g2 versus the digital tiller. Plus they dont do the 150 with the snowmobile exhaust in a tiller, only 140!

It will have a small side console with a tilt helm so i can both sit on the deck and stand

dirtwheelsfl 10-24-2019 07:53 PM

More pics

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thehermit 10-25-2019 08:28 AM

Epic !

steel686 10-25-2019 09:31 AM

Indeed! Look forward to seeing the tank mounting detail. Do I see a layer of Coosa behind Corecell? Drill and tap? I get a different story from every fabricator. Trying to figure out my own bow eye reinforcement detail.

The casual observer would not understand how the detail shots are so compelling but please keep them coming.

dirtwheelsfl 10-25-2019 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel686 (Post 265745)
Indeed! Look forward to seeing the tank mounting detail. Do I see a layer of Coosa behind Corecell? Drill and tap? I get a different story from every fabricator. Trying to figure out my own bow eye reinforcement detail.

The casual observer would not understand how the detail shots are so compelling but please keep them coming.

The tank pads are 3/8 glass drilled n tapped with 3/4 pvc board spacer. Stringers are 26.5” apart and tank is 24Wx12H so I could have the bottom corners bent instead of welded (48” wide sheet of aluminum). That leaves just enough room for a urethane cushion between tank n pad. The small bulkheads are corecell, the real light yellow.

The bow eye has lots of glass under it first all the way up the stem, then the block is 1.5” coosa with a 3/8 glass pad glued to it. Then tabbed in. Got a sweet all welded 5/8 thread D-ring to go there. The juice wasn’t worth the squeeze on the towing hole on the Squid Lips haha!

dirtwheelsfl 10-26-2019 12:26 PM

Livewell corners. The bulkheads have a "cleat" on em for more glue area so i had to notch em...

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Blackfin26 10-26-2019 03:39 PM

Close enough to Halloween to say this is scary good stuff!!

dirtwheelsfl 11-08-2019 08:25 PM

Dont mind the mess!

Had a bit of a brain fart and ran some 2" conduit for both fuel vent and supply lines. Only to realize i put a big dip in the vent doh! Notching pipes is fun but i dont see becoming an aluminum fabricator in my future...

The big holes are just for air circulation, tank is gonna be left au naturale.

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Wanted to keep the exit low back here

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Got a constant rise going forward... U can see the fill and vent for water tank up there if you look closely.

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