Gel coat or AwlGrip

Scott · #1 03-26-2003, 11:51 PM

Fin....ask for Doug Templin. He's extremely knowledgeable and helpful and a great guy to talk to... When you figure out the color (down to two or three) they will send you actual paint "chips" (we'll they did for me at least [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] ) which represent the actual color over a color chart.

As for it being better .... I cant say .... but Sterling is what I will go with. I have talked with guys (painter) that have used the other "two part's" (Interspray, Imron and Awlgrip) and I really feel its a matter of what they are comfortable with ....as they usually end up putting down the others product. The other thing to keep in mind is that some of these products are much more suited for roll and tip than others .... The marina where I keep my boat uses Awlgrip and Interlux ..... they really didnt care for the Interlux but felt it was a better choice for roll and tipping and is more easily repairable.... But they also spray Awlgrip on Sportfishing boats and yachts up around the 50-60 foot range so I really think they have a comfort level with using that product ..... and I will say the work they turn out is absolutely flawless...but it costs !!!!!!!!! I've also seen three hulls painted with Interspray that had a great finish ... so its really hard to say....

After you spray yours ...I'll bring mine down [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

ocuyler · #2 03-27-2003, 12:24 AM

Chris,

We're spraying Interlux Brightside one-part poly on Thursday, having primed and sanded insideand out. Final decision after much waffling is Saffire Blue hull sides and blue-glo white inside. We have talked about 2-part almost exclusively on this site and I was ready to go with Interthane Plus. After finding it difficult to work with on the console and considering UV resistance, gloss life expectancy, etc., I dropped back to Brightside as it's a trailer boat that will be stored inside for the most part and may see 60 days in the atmosphere. Around here, that's 40 sunny days. I feel with good maintainence, It will last for 6 to 8 years. I've never kept ANYTHING for 8 years except my wife and 2 girls...

The primer REALLY showed the anomolies and poorly prepped spots so we're being careful to perfect the prep stage. I'm SO stoked to see the finished product, but it takes alot of patience to not be in hurry to get it done. Images will follow soon. This is the scheme we're going for. Cool huh?

Otto

Finster · #3 03-27-2003, 08:39 AM

Otto, that rules! Just add the 50mm and your good to go. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

FELLOW-SHIP · #4 03-27-2003, 10:36 AM

SINCE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON GEL COAT AND PAINTING STERLING I FIGURED I WOULD CHIME IN A LITTLE. I DID MOST OF MY BOAT ALL THE INSIDE AND MOST OF THE OUTSIDE WITH STERLING THE ROLL AND TIP METHOD, BUT ON THE BOTTOM OF THE BOAT I HAD IT ROLLED WITH GEL-COAT. THIS FOR ME IS THE BEST WAY TO GO (FELLOW-SHIP PERSONAL PREFERENCE).
FIRST OFF EVERYONE SAYS AWLGRIP IS THE BEST FOR SPRAYING AND THAT’S PROBABLY RIGHT BUT IT’S DANGEROUS AND FOR ME, I DIDN’T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TOOLS AND LOCATION (SPRAY BOOTH) FOR SPRAYING A BOAT. I ALSO HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF A GUY DYING SPRAYING HIS BOAT IN HIS GARAGE WITH THAT STUFF. I LIKE MY SEACRAFT BUT NOT THAT MUCH.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD STERLING PAINT PROPERTIES ARE BETTER SUITED THAN AWLGRIP FOR THE ROLL AND TIP METHOD BECAUSE OF THE TIME IT TAKES TO KICK OFF AT LEAST THAT WHAT THE PROS HAVE TOLD ME AND THAT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME WHEN I DID MY BOAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF BOAT YARDS DOWN HERE IN FT. LAUDERDALE AND STERLING IS WHAT A LOT OF THEM USE IN THE PLACES THEY CAN’T SPRAY.
AFTER TALKING TO TRAYDER I GOT CONVERTED TO GEL COAT FOR THE BOTTOM OF THE BOAT. SINCE I NEEDED IT DONE ASAP AND I DIDN’T AGAIN HAVE THE FACILITIES TO LIFT THE BOAT UP AND PUT ON CHOCKS AND MOVE THEM AROUND PLUS ANY EXPERIENCE WITH LARGE GEL COAT JOBS I HADE A PRO DO IT FOR ME. I STILL HAVEN’T GOT AROUND TO SANDING IT YET, I HAVE BEEN DOING OTHER SMALLER JOBS ON THE BOAT STILL. I LIKE GEL COAT ON THE BOTTOM FOR TWO MAIN REASONS. FIRST OFF YOU CAN KEEP THE BOAT IN WATER LONGER WITH GEL COAT THAN WITH PAINT. I KEEP MY BOAT ON A TRAILER, BUT IF I EVER DECIDED TO LEAVE IT IN THE WATER FOR OVER 3 WEEKS AT A TIME PAINT AND SALT WATER DON’T GET ALONG YOU COULD GET DAMAGE TO YOUR PAINT JOB. THE OTHER REASON IS GEL COAT CAN BE REPAIRED FROM SCRATCHES AND DINGS (ON THE BOTTOM) FROM GENERAL USE LOADING AND UNLOADING, BEACHING ETC. EASIER THAN A PAINTED HULL. AGAIN THAT’S MY OPINION.
FELLOW-SHIP [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

Rich · #5 03-27-2003, 11:53 AM

FELLOWSHIP,

I am planning on painting the outside of the boat to the waterline with Sterling, and then bottom paint (maybe that go fast Dolphinite paint) for the bottom. I also will probably paint the cap and some of the floor on the inside with sterling. How much paint and primer did you buy to get the job done? Also, if I remember correctly, you had a location down in FL where you purchsed it that will take orders and ship it?

Thanks,

Rich

Scott · #6 03-28-2003, 01:33 AM

Rich this might help till Fellowship gets back to you. I’m interested to find out what it will cost to ship ……. I know when I have had things shipped from Ct. (resin and such) I’ve been astonished at what the hazardous material shipping charges have been. Don’t know where this paint falls but it would seem obvious that it falls into a similar category …..keep us informed

Quote:

HA SCOTT
I PULLED MY INVOICE AND HERE IS THE SCOOP ON THE PRICES.
BOAT OWNERS WAREHOUSE. PHONE #954 522 7998
ONE GAL OF SNOW WHITE $127.80
½ GAL OF CATALYST $145.80
ONE GAL OF PRIMER U1000 $111.60
½ GAL PRIMER CATALYST $76.50
BLUE MIST PER QT. $45.00
NON SKID $ 26.10

FELLOW-SHIP · #7 03-27-2003, 05:27 PM

RICK YOU COULD PROBABLY GO WITH ONE GAL OF PRIMER AND ½ GAL OF THE PRIMER CATALYST AND THEN ONE GAL OF PAINT AND ½ GAL OF THE CATALYST YOU WILL ALSO NEED BRUSH THINNER AS WELL ON THE PAINT IT’S 2 PARTS PAINT ONE PART CATALYST AND ONE PART BRUSH THINNER. THE COMPANY REP. SAID IT’S BETTER TO BUY SMALLER SIZES OF THE CATALYST IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO USE IT UP IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME THAN ONE BIGGER CONTAINER ( 2 QUORTS INSTEAD OF ½ GAL SIZE). YOU SHOULD PRIMER FIRST SAND AND THEN AT LEAST 2 OR BETTER 3 LIGHT COATS OF PAINT REMEMBER TO SAND BETWEEN COATS. THE JOB WILL COME OUT LOOKING VERY GOOD. ON THE LAST COAT USE A VERY GOOD BRUSH. GOOD LUCK REMEMBER IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE QUALITY OF YOUR JOB YOU COULD ALWAYS HAVE A PRO SPRAY THE LAST COAT. THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN BUT IT WAS COMFORTING TO ME KNOWING THAT IF I SCREWED UP ALL I HAD TO DO IS SAND IT SMOOTH AND CALL IN A PRO FOR THE LAST COAT.
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