SeaCraft price increase?

capt jeff · #1 11-10-2003, 06:59 PM

ONCE UPON A TIME THERE WAS AN OLD BOAT CALLED A "SEABIRD"... IT WAS THE BOAT TO OWN BACK IN THE EARLY 70,S.... THAT WAS THE BUZZ ANYWAY IM SUPRISED NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THEM AS BEING A GREAT OLD "RIDE". IN MY FAMILY WE HAVE OWNED BOTH A1972-3 23' SEABIRD & STILL I HAVE A 1974 23'. MY OLDER BROTHER REMARKS THAT THE OLE SEABIRD WAS A DRIER RIDE & JUST AS SMOOTH AS THE SEACRAFT.I WAS TO YOUNG TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!!
I STILL SEE A SEABIRD AROUND EVERY NOW & THEN BUT THEY SEEM TO HAVE A HIGH MORTALITY RATE , PROBABLY DUE TO THE BALSA CORE HULL. EVERY ONE I FIND IN THE CHEAP BOAT YARD SALES HAVE MORE DAMAGE THAN I CARE TO DEAL WITH!
DOES ANYONE HAVE AN OLD 23 SECPTER WITH THE FACTORY HARD TOP & MAYBE EVEN THE FLYBRIDGE? ?
IF SO I MIGHT BE WILLING TO WORK A DEAL ON MY CENTER CONSOLE THANKS YALL
SCOUT P.S. BY THE WAY IS MY BROTHER FULL OF OLD SHOES WHEN HE RECALLS THE SEABIRD RIDE ? ? WWW.DIVESALONE@AOL.COM

Miles Offshore · #2 11-10-2003, 07:12 PM

Seabirds were the predesser to the Phoenix boats. Nice heavy hulls, I only rode on one 25/26' with a small flybridge and it was top heavy and really rolled bad. I have seen them around without the bridges but dont know anyone else who has owned one. Im not so sure about the "dry" either,but who knows.I have always thought that Phoenix have pretty lines and are nice boats, that raise fish, and thats what really counts!!!.

Ryan · #3 11-10-2003, 07:37 PM

Ive never ridden on a seabird but i have heard good things about them. One of the guys on thehulltruth has a project 23, and ship shape tv just redid a 23 seabird that looked really good

flyfisher · #4 11-13-2003, 01:40 AM

gentleman i never intended it to turn into a argument. i was just voicing my opinion. if you don't like the ride
of some of the boats i mentioned so be it. but the ones i was comparing in some lines have dead rises compared
to seacraft. in parker you can't compare a 15 degree dead rise to a 21 degree like their dv has. most that have
rode in a parker have rode in the 15 not the 21. as for the mako. they have produced dead rises from 15 to 23
degrees. i think anybody that has spent long hours on a boat in the ocean will agree the more dead rise the softer
the ride. yes their is roll to contend with. in higher dead rises. but every boat is a compromise. no matter the
brand. i think if you go back and read what i said in stead of just reading my comments you didn't like you
would see my point. i also think that others here are trying to say the same. seabird is a very good riding boat. i
just didn't bring up every boat that i have spent time on in the last 50 years. i fished from a seacraft 23 and
found it just a comfortable in a 23 abie. as for the new one. well guys that's in my bailiwick. i am a engineering
designer and have design many many things from submarines to satellites. even a few boat hulls and the new
seacrafts from an engineering prospective with new technology that is being used, are built very very well, and
i would never turn up my nose at one to get an older seacraft. in most cases it still gets down to what you
personally like and i believe i did say i wouldn't mind having a 23 seacraft. their is a 23 inboard for sale and a 23 septer
for sale in project boat net. both for a while as well as a number of others that were listed on boattrader and are
still for sale. i've checked on a few to see if they were sitill available along with afew other brand i am interested in. and
i don't see any body banging down any doors to buy them at those prices. and i still believe marks question is a very
good one. but i think i will go back to just reading and not comenting on this board. sense some don't seam to like
opnions other then praise.

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[ November 12, 2003, 12:54 PM: Message edited by: flyfisher ]

Mark · #5 11-12-2003, 02:42 PM

flyfisher, don't merely read and not comment, that makes any board rather dull. A bit of discussion, regardless of how much hair it raises on peoples necks is a good thing.

Regarding my comments on Parkers, I have actually never ridden in a Parker shorter than 21' and have spent a good deal of time in their hulls that are much longer......they all pound!

As to the others mentioned, like I said, most do pretty well [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Captn C · #6 11-12-2003, 06:12 PM

Why do y'all feel the newer SeaCrafts are not as "good" as the older ones?

I am assumeing that SeaCraft has only started building the 25'er recently because I don't ever see any of you mention them. Is that true?

I have the 25'er and love it. I get 2.5MPG@25kt on smooth water. And stay above 2MPG on rough water. If I want to get home in hurry I can run 29knot and still get 1.8MPG in rough water. That's pretty darn good for a decent size boat. My only complaint is the boat is too lite. If it were heavier I think I could run faster in heavier head seas, I'm sure my fuel consumption would then take the beating though. It's not that bad only going 19knots in 3 to 5 foot seas.

[ November 12, 2003, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: Captn C ]

Miles Offshore · #7 11-12-2003, 06:44 PM

Capn C- My brother in law has a 2003 ,23 and it is a nice boat, fast and a little light. The way they advertise them isnt quite right to me though. They are very nice boats although a little "pricey" for me. I did get a chance to look over a 32 and it is really sweet although I didnt want to know the price tag.

craig