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#12
02-28-2003, 09:22 PM
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Re: fish finders
I have the 1650D which is just the dgps chartplotter. It is under a t-top and i can see pretty good in the sunlight.
As far as fishfinders go I always had Furuno or raytheon crt models. After extensive research I bought the JRC 50 FF. This unit has the same power as the 582L furuno and competes directly with it. Very impressed with the unit and i can view it in sunlight. Best part it cost quite a bit less than the 582L. 
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#14
03-06-2003, 03:53 PM
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Re: fish finders
cSick....
Nick ... a couple days ago I was in the Consumers showroom and was looking at the 582.....Only because it was in direct SUNLIGHT (yep we actually had sun a couple days ago) and the screen looked fine...I'll grant you its not like your looking at it in a dark room, but it sure wasnt washed out. I dont know what glare off the water and the more powerful sun of summer will do, but if it going under a top you'll have no problem. The 600 was holding in there also, but I personally have always felt that unit didnt have as bright a screen as does the 582. Combo units are great especially with limited space .... but if you've got the room (and cash [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] ) dedicated units are better IMHO ....things get small when splitting a 5.6" screen between sounder and plotter. I too was looking for that combo unit (1850, Navnet, Garmin 2010) and was, to a degree, talked out of it once they found out I had plenty of room...although the NavNet is pretty versatile. All a matter of how you want to use the equipment. JRC as skilbet said... at least a couple of guys at CME see them in the same plane as some of the other units... I have also heard that the rate of return for repair on these units is the lowest..I have no personal experience with them nor have I looked at any of their products....but heard this in conversation . [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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#15
03-14-2003, 09:17 AM
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Re: fish finders
Don't forget the cone angle issue. If you are fishing offshore it is not an issue but if you are fishing in waters say 40' or less, think twice about the Furuno.
Having said that let me say I own a 582 now and have owned probably a dozen Furuno machines in my life. Here's the skinny: Furuno's 200kHz has a 11 or so degree cone angle, while Garmin [and everyone else] offers it with about 20 degrees. Now, Furuno proponents will tell you to simply swith over to 50kHz in shallower water and get the 37 degree cone angle but that too is flawed as at 50kHz you get little detail. Long story short, if you are fishing the bays and reefs I'd definitely stay away from the Furuno until they get Airmar to build them a 20 degree, 200 kHz transducer. If you want more detailed info let me know. I actually did a side by side with a 6100 and a Lowrance x85 in 30' and the results would make you a believer, I promise. I took the 6100 off my little boat and replaced it with a Lowrance x-16 for these reasons. Oh yeah, on the screen issue, whoever talked about the sunlight viewing is correct about the 1650-1850's. There have been some great advancements in how they "twist" the light to make a better screen image. Lowrance x-19 and 104 have it and the x15's do not. Furuno's 16 and 1850's have it, the others do not. Tom.
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#16
03-14-2003, 04:15 PM
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Re: fish finders
Tom,
The way things are going, I need to know which model will see through ice. We had a "boaters" outing at a friend's cottage last weekend. We walked out 100' from shore and drilled a hole to reduce the Perch population. After 21" of ice, we had 4" of water. Needless to say, there wern't many willing fish. Otto
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Otto And yes, I still believe in the four boat theory...
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