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Old 01-27-2004, 06:36 PM
el pescador el pescador is offline
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Default are potter hull design same as csy used

comparing a potter era hull in the 23 ft to a 1983 csy 23ft hull and wondering if they have the same lines and hull design as the potters seems as something looks different on the two makers .....can anyone clear this up yea or nea....thanks
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Old 01-27-2004, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: are potter hull design same as csy used

There is zero difference in hull design. Even today's 23 has the exact same hull design as a 1972.
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: are potter hull design same as csy used

I concur. The design is the same. That leaves lay-up scheduale, materials and quality of workmanship. I think it's a safe bet that the "early" FRP hulls were built heavy. It's been said here before that the dry weight of the various models has stayed within 10%.

If you strip down a Potter, a CSY and a Tracker hull, make your repairs and compare them side by side, I think we would find they are essentially the same.

Correct me if I'm wrong, guys.
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: why hull weight difference in the 2

also the spec. sheet on the 1983 say dry weight of 3100 lbs and the potter spec sheet say 2600 dry weight,
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: why hull weight difference in the 2

The hull design is the same but the interior layout is vastly different and this is one place where the weight may differ along with the lay up scheduale.
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: are potter hull design same as csy used

I think it's safe to say the outter hulls all look the same. As for the guts, I don't think so.
I can look at a Potter boat and expect to find what I am looking for, or know where it should be. I can't do that on the other boats.
Word on the street is CSY layed up lots more glass and in doing so lost money on each boat. Unfortunatley or fortunatley the extra weight didn't improve the boat. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:59 PM
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Thinks he knows everything. There will be CSC recertification testing at the AC show. Bring #2 pencil.
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Old 01-28-2004, 08:41 AM
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Word on the street is CSY layed up lots more glass and in doing so lost money on each boat. Unfortunatley or fortunatley the extra weight didn't improve the boat. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
My father's '82 CSY is built like a brick sh!t house. Not sure what the Potter spec is for the 23 Sceptre/Tsunami OB, but CSY gave a dry weight of 3,300#s (more than a CC due to deck, full windshield, etc.) I can only guess those extra lbs help in the ride department when running into a head sea.
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Old 01-28-2004, 09:02 AM
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Heyyy, back off. I didn't say it was a bad thing.

You CSY guys are touchy. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 01-28-2004, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: are potter hull design same as csy used

This is a touchy subject, one might get offended if I have bad input on a boat that they might have. So on this note, I don't mean to offend anyone [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. I had a 77 20ft Sceptre Potter built and now have an 82 23ft Sceptre CSY built. I can't really tell that much difference between the two as far as glass lay-up etc goes. If you really want to split hairs, it does seem that the CSY boat does have more glass (being built like a tank), but that might be the simple fact that it is a bigger boat. However I'm not happy with the workmanship that was put into my 23ft boat [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. I talked to a local fiberglass man and he said that he has had to repair several Tracker models, stated that the stringers were breaking loose in them, and that Tracker had actually tried to just bond the stringer in rather that glassing them.
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