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Old 02-20-2006, 02:03 AM
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Warthog - I will get a better pic tomorrow after I clean the bildge up a bit..
I am using a Furuno FCV600L with a transom mount transducer and plan on sticking with that unit for now.. works pretty well for me. I noticed that you have the 582L correct? If I was in the market for a new unit that would probably be my choice.
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Old 02-20-2006, 02:24 AM
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Whats on the other side of the glass block ?? smooth hull ?
Do you know if its solid ?
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Old 02-20-2006, 12:25 PM
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I would be looking at a Airmar B-60 tilted element X-ducer to get rid of that junk on the transom. It will clean it up a lot without the transom mount unit.
The B-60 is a good unit to use with the 600L.
Jim @ ByOwner has them for under $200.
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Old 02-20-2006, 11:00 PM
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More Pics of "I guess" progress -

Scott - I will have to dig around to see what is in there? Not sure yet will advise.

Warthog - I like the idea of a thru-hull X-ducer.. How do they perform at speed?

Cut further down towards the bottom of the hull - you can see that one of the old 1" brass drains had a crack in it -


Can anyone say core trouble? I knew I had some soft spots on the cap.. I will tackle this project later.


Cut out the Ice boxes - Below I scraped some of the foam that is in the inside corners. Water is standing in a recess under the deck just to the right of the exposed foam.
You can reach your hand in there and feel it. The starboard side is dry as a bone. Is there some sort of drain that might be clogged???


Here is a little cleaner shot of the factory thru-hull transducer??
Also a lot of other transom jobs I have seen pics of have two stringers instead of the single stringer in the center that my boat has?


It is a B**ch getting that wood out of the bottom of the transom..


Another question - the inner skin (which is all I have left) is very thin. Should I just cut that out or try and bond my new plywood to it??

Thanks for the responses.. Jack
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Old 02-20-2006, 11:35 PM
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If I recall I think Capt Chuck heard direct from either Hermco or B Potter that the center stringer in the bilge was reinforcement for trailering. Chuck can confirm that. Several of the boats don’t have that center stringer. Now that little box fabricated into the bottom and stringer …that’s interesting.

Your Bilge drain … that doesn’t look so hot

Great pictures!!!
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Old 02-21-2006, 12:51 AM
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FJ,
Thin as the inner skin is, I believe it's important to get a good bond to the core.

I made a core template then dry fitted each core piece, then bonded the layers of core material together, outside the boat. I then dry-fitted the bonded core, trimming as required, then clamped it in place.

Since you have your bracket, I would also dry-fit it, while the core is clamped / dry-fitted into place. Mark and drill the bracket holes in the core & inner skin, and use these holes as well to clamp it all together.

Additionally, I marked and drilled the inner skin in an approx 4" grid, (in the "reachable areas").

Then when it as all dryfitted and ready for resin, I slathered both pieces liberally, set the core in place, used the bracket holes with large washers, to clamp it in place, and finsished it off using 3/4" screws with fender washers, in every other previously drilled inner skin hole, to "clamp" the inner skin to the new core.

While that was curing, I fabbed the outer skin replacemment, dry fitted & pre-drilled it for the bracket holes, and before mounting it, again drilled the skin on an approx 4-6" square pattern, and secured it with 3/4" screws (& fender washers) to the core in the alternate holes to allow the excess resin and air pockets to escape from the un-used holes.

When it all set up, I removed the screws & fender washers, then back-filled the holes. The inners I simply sealed up with a 2" square patch of resin soaked glass as no one is going to see them anyway, and the excess holes in the outer skin was an easy grind, fair fill, & level before final finishing.

Hope this wasn't too confusing...
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Old 02-21-2006, 01:08 AM
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Warthog - I like the idea of a thru-hull X-ducer.. How do they perform at speed?
The one I have installed in a 25ft Mako was outstanding at any speed. It painted a pretty pix on a 600L
Jim say's he has sold a whole bunch of them now.
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:00 PM
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Jeeper - Thanks not confusing at all makes good sense.

warthog - I assume I will need the B-60 - 20º tilted version (for 16º to 24º deadrise)?
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:47 PM
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I assume I will need the B-60 - 20º tilted version (for 16º to 24º deadrise)?
You don't need to angle if you mount the ducer thru the center of the keel. It's a two beer job

"Other Tom" taught me how to do it. Works flawlessly at all speads with my Furuno 582L.


Measure and cut thru keel from the underneath



Glass it in flush with the bottom


Fill in any gaps and paint to edge
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:37 PM
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OK - I'm going to slow down with the pics.

I'm sure they are getting boring (same old stuff) and post some of the issues I am pondering -

1)Hatches - I see a lot of people fab their own hatches - I don't know if I am up to that level of comfort with glass yet.

I am planning on installing two hatches one in the deck behind the stock hatch to access bildge etc. and another vertically in the enclosed transom area. I am looking at the Bomar 9.75"x19.5" for the floor area and the T-H Marine 10"x27.25" for the (vertical) front of the enclosed transom. Anyone have any experience with these - any know issues? Any other suggestions?

2) Livewell - I have a Kodiak Oval 35 gal that I have been using in the old (now removed) splashwell.
I cannot come up with a good way to use this livewell on my deck - Before I ran the overflow hose out the back of the boat. It was a good temporary setup. Now I am installing a clamshell water pickup to provide water to the livewell. I cannot come up with a creative way of having access to a drain (overflow) out of the boat.

I would love to have a livewell intergrated in the new enclosed transom. But again - don't know that I am up to the task of fabrication an oval livewell to fit my transom.

I like being able to hook up the livewell when needed and remove it when not needed it's just the plumbing of a temporary livewell that looks neat that I cannot figure out.
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