Need 'Roll & Tip' tips

[FELLOW-SHIP]

I used a different paint but everywhere I read that said use a very good quality brush either the badger hair on china something brush.

FellowShip

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[65Bowrider]

Everyone makes it seem so simple to get it perfect!
Reading the first two responses before heading out to the boat, this is what we tried....only on the transom.

BTW, the boat has been primed, sanded, primed, sanded...etc.

I rolled a little thicker coat of paint for only about 1' at a time(taking it smaller), rolling from bottom to top, then re-rolled with a dry roller, also from bottom to top. There were too many bubbles still left, so then I tipped with a VERY light touch. 1/2 hour later, NO BRUSH STROKES...that's good. But it did have an orange peel appearance. Hopefully overnight it will level out.

I have a china bristle brush (recommended too), maybe I'll go back to trying that again...with a very light touch.

With the 2nd dry roll, did you get bubbles? Did you squeegie the roller between paper inbetween sections to help keep it 'dry'?

Like I said, you make it all seem so easy....
I'm determined to win this battle of getting a good "smooth" coat!

[65Bowrider]

Just wanted to include a picture of the topside...
used the process of 2oz thinner, foam roller & tipped with foam brush. I was pleased with the way it came out.

Red must be a different creature....I'll keep practicing on the transom, using your suggestions...
Thank you.

[Bryan A.]

WOW!!!! That is roll and tip?
Looks good.

[Capt Chuck]

Looks Terrific to me

But it did have an orange peel appearance

The thicker the paint the more orange peel you will get. Your better to go according to manf mixture. I don't know about the paint your using so I can not comment.

With the 2nd dry roll, did you get bubbles? Did you squeegie the roller between paper inbetween sections to help keep it 'dry'

I use the "Shur-Line" 3" Trim & Touch-up roller (that's right 3") to put the wet paint on. I get 'em at Home Depot. Make sure you wipe and roll the cloth roller first with duct tape to remove all dust and fuzz. It just takes a little more time vs using a 6" or 9". I dry off with the 4" Shur-Line Foam Roller. I keep extra rollers all set and clean in case you drop one. I use 2 or 3 per side to keep them from absorbing too much paint.

"Bubbles" Maybe your rolling too fast? Maybe the tip method with the shaved bristles like Joey mentioned is your best bet? Some of the cheap foam brushes will break down in the urethane thinners. The ones I use have "JEN MFG" on the wood handle. Get 'em at Ace Hardware. They hold up a little longer. Can several coats of your paint be applied in a single day? If so, then by all means go thinner and then apply a second thin coat after dry/tack up. Also FYI, being painted indoors slows the drying time. Air movement over the paint removes the fumes and quickens the tack up. I know Mike at Wildfire paints inside and uses big fans when he sprays PPG Concept paint. I just hate to steer you wrong Carla as I can only comment based on my experience with the Signature paint application.

I'm positive after your all done and made and corrected your mistakes, you'll be a pro !!

[65Bowrider]

"I'm positive after your all done and made and corrected your mistakes, you'll be a pro !! "

Thanks Chuck, but I want to be a 'pro' BEFORE I get to the last coat! Hmm orange peel means I'd better go back to thinning 2oz per quart, which is what I did on the topside.
I'm using 4" foam rollers, will stick with that. Maybe slow down on rolling per your suggestion for bubbles. Also maybe need to experiment more with the 'tipping'.... foam brush (also used on topside) and try the China bristle we have.

If all that doesn't work, maybe stand on my head & paint upsidedown!

Bryan A...thanks for the compliment. The topside was so much easier than the outside of the hull! Same paint, but different colors.

[Fishjack]

Pro? From the looks of that pic your close to being there!

Red (and any other dark color) I believe shows more imperfections. Granted no "roll and tip" will every be as perfect as a pro spray job but I still have people look closely at my boat and cannot believe it was "rolled on"...

Keep up the good work..

[Blue197320]

65Bowrider,
i am trying to roll and tip my my console but its not working very well for me. i am using the same paint and thinner that u are using. i roll it on with a mohair roller and went over it with a china bristle brush but had bad brush marks. i went and bought foam brushes to try. do you apply the paint thick initially then tip?

[65Bowrider]

Blue,
I've mixed 2 oz of 333 in the paint. On the topside, I rolled with 4" sponge roller, EVERY direction getting a good even coat, doing only about 2 sq ft at a time. Then went over it with the sponge brush with decent pressure...not too lightly ... and not digging thru the paint. Tipped only in one direction, one time.
But that was on the topside, which is mostly a horizontal surface. Did the bottom this way too and had pretty good results. I liked the foam brush better than the china bristle.

Now I'm doing the sides of the boat(hull). It's a vertical surface, and that's where the finish is not smoothing out as much. Your console is a lot of vertical surface too.

I've gotten a lot of good tips on this thread and trying them out. WHEN I succeed (and I will!), I'll post.

I'm taking the day off from painting to attend the Palm Beach Boat Show. So Friday I'll see the results from yesterday's attempt.

Good Luck & let me know if you figure it out using Interlux.

[Blue197320]

65,
thanks for the tip. so the verticle surfaces are giving the problem... luckily for me the console is out of the boat so i can try to lay it on its side and let gravity do the work?
also is there any particular brand of foam roller that u prefer ?